The fat lady has not sung yet in crossing fight, claims Thurrock MP

The fat lady has not sung yet in crossing fight, claims Thurrock MP

The fat lady has not sung yet in crossing fight, claims Thurrock MP

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Thurrock Gazette: Matt Abbott by , Chief Reporter

THURROCK MP Jackie Doyle-Price claims the "fat lady has not sung yet" in the battle to prevent a new river crossing being built in Thurrock.

But she insisted Thurrock Council need to do more in building a case against the two options under consideration from the Government.

Option A would see a new crossing built next to the current Thurrock-Dartford one, while option C would land between Tilbury Fort and Coalhouse Fort before joining the A13.

Ms Doyle-Price said: "I will continue to fight against the two options before us. I don’t think that any option should involve putting more traffic on the M25 and the A13.

"I think it a dereliction of leadership that highways authorities in Essex and Thurrock have not come up with good evidence based analysis as to why these options won’t work.

"Instead Thurrock Council consulted on the options with a fourth option  which said ‘none of the above’. If you are going to represent a community you have to do better than that. You have to make good arguments.

"And it isn’t responsible to suggest that ‘none of the above’ is a credible option when there is a clear need for more river crossings."

At a debate last Tuesday, transport minister Robert Goodwill said the Government would not look again at options to land the new bridge or tunnel at Canvey Island or Southend.

Those two options had been on the table in a 2009 study and both Ms Doyle-Price and the South Basildon and East Thurrock MP Stephen Metcalfe had called on the Department for Transport to look again at those alternatives.

Option B, which proposed to land a new crossing in the Grays Beach Park area, was dropped in December.

Ms Doyle-Price added: "I am making constructive suggestions to give the Government somewhere else to go – by looking again at options D and E and by examining the potential for ferries.  

"The Woolwich ferry carries one million vehicles a year and a ferry could take local traffic away from the crossing.

"Since the debate, I have followed up on the points raised with the Minister. I have also made these arguments to the Prime Minister and asked that resilience at the Dartford crossing be properly assessed at COBRA.

"The fat lady has not sung yet."

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1:23pm Mon 20 Jan 14

stuart695 says...

Having watched the debate it looked very like the fat lady has sung to me. The 2 Thurrock MP's were very politely rebuffed by the Minister and only air quality and environmental issues appear to be delaying the decision on where in Thurrock the crossing will be. Ferries are unlikely to be seen positively in the world where the government is focussed on high speed connections. Crossrail is coming to an end with about 30km of tunnelling. The Tunnelling & Construction Academy at Ilford is supposed to be the leading institue of its kind in Europe to take advantage of future tunnelling demand. It seems so logical to push for a 7.5km tunnel from Dartford to the M25 north of Ockendon crossing just east of the existing crossing site and avoiding all towns and villages by going deep undergound. The crossing is coming; we need to mitigate its impact on the people of Thurrock. A tunnel is the only approach that can satisfy everyone.
Having watched the debate it looked very like the fat lady has sung to me. The 2 Thurrock MP's were very politely rebuffed by the Minister and only air quality and environmental issues appear to be delaying the decision on where in Thurrock the crossing will be. Ferries are unlikely to be seen positively in the world where the government is focussed on high speed connections. Crossrail is coming to an end with about 30km of tunnelling. The Tunnelling & Construction Academy at Ilford is supposed to be the leading institue of its kind in Europe to take advantage of future tunnelling demand. It seems so logical to push for a 7.5km tunnel from Dartford to the M25 north of Ockendon crossing just east of the existing crossing site and avoiding all towns and villages by going deep undergound. The crossing is coming; we need to mitigate its impact on the people of Thurrock. A tunnel is the only approach that can satisfy everyone. stuart695
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2:42pm Mon 20 Jan 14

cynic all says...

The fat lady sung some time ago ,we only ever hear about or discuss things when a decision has already been made. Dont ever believe you can influence any big decision its already signed and sealed .MPs have no influence if there not on side.
The fat lady sung some time ago ,we only ever hear about or discuss things when a decision has already been made. Dont ever believe you can influence any big decision its already signed and sealed .MPs have no influence if there not on side. cynic all
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8:39pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Kirk.Martin@virginmedia.com says...

Open the barriers and watch the traffic flow freely, a simple yet effective option, however the GREED of the government, taxing people to breaking point, is the very reason that they are still taking money. For a system we already pay through our vehicle tax, and also our council tax.
Open the barriers and watch the traffic flow freely, a simple yet effective option, however the GREED of the government, taxing people to breaking point, is the very reason that they are still taking money. For a system we already pay through our vehicle tax, and also our council tax. Kirk.Martin@virginmedia.com
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10:30am Thu 23 Jan 14

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