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3:20am Wednesday 30th April 2008

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WHEN councillor Garry Hague made bogus claims about the crime survey conducted by the Liberal Democrats without seeing the evidence, he put his reputation on the line.

His integrity was called into question by a requirement to produce hard facts to substantiate his claims which he is duty bound to respond with dignity.

However, he has woefully failed to produce any shred of irrefutable or incontrovertible evidence in this regard.

Unfortunately, he has instead responded with a tirade of personal insults which does not augur well with his standing as a public figure.

As I stated earlier, councillor Hague should be in possession of the crime figures. He must now publish them and stop deflecting attention from the real issue. Residents who have been victims of crime want something done about it.

Councillor Hague, if crime is not an issue on Chafford and North Stifford what is preventing you from disclosing the figures to support your claims?

What are the weekly crime figures in the area? Are they going up or down? By suppressing material information of public interest you are doing our community a great disservice.

Further delay in publishing the crime figures will confirm an abdication of your responsibility in acknowledging fellow residents' concerns and the incidence of crime in the area.

It could also be interpreted as a deliberate attempt to ignore the plight of residents who have been victims of crime.

Residents want reassurance, give them proof. Unless you can provide evidence people are more likely to believe that either you are not telling the truth or have something to hide.

If you cannot provide the figures don't bother to reply.

Earnshaw Palmer,

Chafford Hundred.

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EP, Omnipresent says...
1:01pm Wed 30 Apr 08

Earnie, and he drove the fastest milkcart in the west.

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Thurrock Voice of Reason, Grays says...
8:15pm Wed 30 Apr 08

Said in a David Attenborough voice " And there, we hear, the final call of the Earnshaw Palmer. After ruffling feathers for the past three months shouting for all its might for just a few hundred votes it goes into its final swan song. Most in the Thurrock area are impervious to its loud, but pointless cry, having grown accustom to this brief and shallow display, knowing full well that this bizarre creature will go into hibernation for a little short of 2 years. And with the brief period of life known as spin nearly over, you hear its dying crys. Makes you wonder what the point of this brief display is but still some look forward to its return mainly for the easy target it makes.

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Rubber Gloves, Stanford-le-Hope says...
8:19am Thu 1 May 08

Empty vessels make most noise...

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terry, stanford says...
9:07am Thu 1 May 08

The saga continues scripted by Mr Palmer. I have been following this debate since the outset and can not believe it is still running. In this latest letter Mr Palmer asks for Mr Hague to come up with the facts. I find it incredible that Mr Palmer did not ask Chief Inspector Alan Cotgrove for the facts at there recent meeting, or perhaps he did but they didn’t suit him. I regularly attend Forum meetings and for the past 6 months at least the police have reported the local crime figures in our forum area broken down into categories, I am sure the same would be done by the police at the Chafford Forum meeting. Mr Palmer has stated, “We would have been remiss in our duty as community activists had we failed to voice the fears of some members of the community” (Gazette April 8th) Surely as a community activist Mr Palmer should be attending the Chafford Forum meetings.
Mr Palmer base’s his case on anecdotal evidence from a survey of local residents, let’s hope the Liberal Democrats base the reselection of Mr Palmer when it happens on anecdotal evidence from the letters page of the Gazette as I haven’t seen a great swathe of support for his posturing. This is not to say residents in the area aren’t concerned, just that they prefer to deal with it on a regular basis with groups and organisations that are there day in day out not for a few months just prior to elections.

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spartacus, grays says...
2:37pm Fri 2 May 08

poor old earnie,a one man disaster zone.

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old100, Chafford Hundred says...
2:39pm Fri 2 May 08

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Thurrock Thurrock National
Violence 16.55 16.55 17.73
Sexual Offence 0.86 0.86 0.98
Robbery 1.37 1.37 1.24
Burglary 4.79 4.79 4.48
Theft of Motor 7.41 7.41 3.08
Theft from Motor 14.74 14.74 7.99

The data above refers to offences per 1000 population


Crime in RM16 (Thurrock)
Based on the police recorded crime reports (for the financial year 2006/7) Mouseprice ranks the Thurrock number 258 out of the 376 CDRPs (Crime and Disorder Reduction Partnerships). The higher the rank having the worst levels of crime. Policing in the area is the responsibility of the Essex.

The National average figures above are the simple averages, the averages weighted by population are as follows:
Violence: 19.28 offences per 1,000 population
Sexual offences: 1.06 offences per 1,000 population
Robbery: 1.86 offences per 1,000 population
Burglary: 5.47 offences per 1,000 population
Theft of motor vehicles: 3.61 offences per 1,000 population
Theft from motor vehicles: 9.34 offences per 1,000 population


Local crime figures are reported by Crime and Disorder Reduction Partnerships (CDRPs). These are local level partnerships of the police, local authorities and various other organisations.



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Rubber Gloves, Stanford-le-Hope says...
9:48pm Fri 2 May 08

Gazette April 8th

Mr Palmer says the police chief briefed his team about the various aspects of neighbourhood policing, innovations and strategies to prevent reduce and tackle crime in Thurrock...

..."Whilst it is assuring to learn that rates for some categories of crime are falling..."

Minutes of Chafford 100 Community Forum meeting
Thursday 24th January 2008, Chafford Hundred Campus School

(i) Talk from Claire Hawthorn, our new Neighbourhood Specialist Officer

Claire was not on duty tonight but made the trip to the meeting to give a brief introduction of herself and her role. She said that burglaries were up on Chafford, that theft from motor vehicles was down. She has created a Ward Folder for Chafford Hundred which will be brought to every meeting for residents to see – this file will contain latest stats and information on crime. Residents brought to Claire’s attention that there are problems with nuisance youths on Edmund Road.

Thurrock Council Election Result for Chafford Hundred and North Stifford - 1st May 2008

Garry Hague (Con) 866
Earnshaw Palmer (Lib Dem) 390
Sandra Strickson (BNP)201
Martin Healy (Lab) 188

Maj 476
Con hold
Turnout 31%


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spartacus, grays says...
9:51am Mon 5 May 08

any spotted earnie since the elections finished?,gone into hibernation i suppose.

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Rubber Gloves, Stanford-le-Hope says...
10:35am Mon 5 May 08

Thurrock Gazette 2nd May 2008:-

Mr Palmer said: "The people have spoken. I have nothing to say."

That makes a change!

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Thurrock Voice of Reason, Grays says...
12:19pm Tue 6 May 08

spartacus wrote:
any spotted earnie since the elections finished?,gone into hibernation i suppose.
Spartacus
I am off to tackle the long grass at the bottom of Reason Acres I will let you know if I see him there!

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spartacus, grays says...
7:41pm Tue 6 May 08

if you do find him please do not wake him up,he needs to build his strength up for the next campaign.though it beats me how anyone can be daft enough to vote for him,when you choose a career in politics you have the choice from tories ,labour and lib- dem to use to make a career,how can anyone be daft enough to choose the lib-dems?,its like standing on the deck of the titanic and being given the choice between a life-raft,a life-jacket or a pair of lead boots.

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Thurrock Voice of Reason, Grays says...
11:28am Wed 7 May 08

spartacus wrote:
if you do find him please do not wake him up,he needs to build his strength up for the next campaign.though it beats me how anyone can be daft enough to vote for him,when you choose a career in politics you have the choice from tories ,labour and lib- dem to use to make a career,how can anyone be daft enough to choose the lib-dems?,its like standing on the deck of the titanic and being given the choice between a life-raft,a life-jacket or a pair of lead boots.
Sorry no sign of him, just some guy called Lucan on some scabby old horse. I really must cut the grass at the bottom of Reason Acres more often...

Anyway Spartacus looking at the election results looks like the only way the Lib Dems will go down well in Thurrock is if they all wore lead boots!

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