Petition launched in weight limit battle

A PETITION has been launched by West Thurrock residents to remove a HGV weight limit from Devonshire Road in Chafford Hundred.

More than 450 people have signed the petition, spearheaded by residents Keith Nicholls and Sue Domeney, to have the 7.5-tonne limit lifted from the Chafford Hundred road to enable lorries to use it.

Mrs Domeney, 63, has lived in London Road for 40 years and said the noise and number of lorries using the road is getting worse every year.

She said: “I think it is ludicrous that a road like Devonshire Road, which was built as a relief road, is simply being ignored and not used by these heavy goods vehicles.

“We in West Thurrock are always seen as second class citizens and it is high time this changed. My house forever starts shaking from 3am with lorries thundering past and it does not stop and the problem is getting worse.

“Our homes are our homes, the same as the people living in Chafford Hundred, as we want and need a better quality of life. I feel so strongly about this because it has gone on for so long.

“I was surprised with the amount of people that turned out to sign the petition, but I am very pleased.”

The Gazette reported in March how Tory councillors in Chafford Hundred had launched an online petition to keep the present weight limit on Devonshire Road.

Mr Nicholls, 54, of Palmerston Road, Grays, added: “We have had an excellent response from residents and this is all we can do as a community, pull together and try our best to make our lives better.

“Sue and I knocked on doors along London Road and all the surrounding roads, the problem is so much bigger than we first thought. We are going to continue fighting until something is done.”

Labour’s Andy Smith, cabinet member for housing and ward councillor for West Thurrock, added: “I am 100 per cent behind these residents and their campaign backing the removal of the weight limit.

“They have been very active and it is a massive number of people who have signed the petition. I will be handing it in at the next full council meeting.

“If Devonshire Road was to be opened up it would not solve the lorry problems down London Road, but it would probably halve the amount of lorries using it as a cut through. I will be doing as much as I can to help.”

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9:59am Sun 15 May 11

rocket1 says...

a few chafford nimbys are far out numbered by the people living along london road.
a few chafford nimbys are far out numbered by the people living along london road. rocket1

10:20am Sun 15 May 11

PJDiddy says...

Sign the petition online at http://www.ipetition
s.com/petition/lift-
the-limit/
Sign the petition online at http://www.ipetition s.com/petition/lift- the-limit/ PJDiddy

12:09pm Sun 15 May 11

rocket1 says...

check out devonshire road at http://youtu.be/179k
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check out devonshire road at http://youtu.be/179k _sn58GA rocket1

12:11pm Sun 15 May 11

rocket1 says...

london road at http://youtu.be/jm7n
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london road at http://youtu.be/jm7n GrLWBNg rocket1

7:00am Mon 16 May 11

Dave_ says...

I can't see why there is a problem. The lorries using Devonshire Road go around the housing estate that is Chafford 100, whereas they go right past the front doors of people along London Road. D Road was built to take traffic off of London Road. So let its purpose be fulfilled and while they're at it, an access into the "Askew Farm" site.
I can't see why there is a problem. The lorries using Devonshire Road go around the housing estate that is Chafford 100, whereas they go right past the front doors of people along London Road. D Road was built to take traffic off of London Road. So let its purpose be fulfilled and while they're at it, an access into the "Askew Farm" site. Dave_

11:01am Mon 16 May 11

Drunken Master says...

Rocket, you are always on here showing a bitterness to the people of Chafford, If it wasn't for the Chafford Campus your wife wouldn't have a job. Jealousy will get you nowhere.
Rocket, you are always on here showing a bitterness to the people of Chafford, If it wasn't for the Chafford Campus your wife wouldn't have a job. Jealousy will get you nowhere. Drunken Master

12:38pm Mon 16 May 11

Mattster says...

The limit must go, lorries must be allowed to use this road as originally designed. Politics shouldnt come into decisions like this, Devonshire Road is far more suitable for HGV's.

London Road was built for Horses and Carts not HGV's!
The limit must go, lorries must be allowed to use this road as originally designed. Politics shouldnt come into decisions like this, Devonshire Road is far more suitable for HGV's. London Road was built for Horses and Carts not HGV's! Mattster

12:49pm Mon 16 May 11

Mattster says...

Drunken Master wrote:
Rocket, you are always on here showing a bitterness to the people of Chafford, If it wasn't for the Chafford Campus your wife wouldn't have a job. Jealousy will get you nowhere.
I think what he is getting at is the attitude that some (not all) C100 residents hold. That being that they are somehow superior to everyone else in the area.

Rocket tends to give them a reality slap by reminding them there isnt actually anything special about a overcrowded housing estate built in a former chalk pit.

Jealousy? Probably not.
[quote][p][bold]Drunken Master[/bold] wrote: Rocket, you are always on here showing a bitterness to the people of Chafford, If it wasn't for the Chafford Campus your wife wouldn't have a job. Jealousy will get you nowhere.[/p][/quote]I think what he is getting at is the attitude that some (not all) C100 residents hold. That being that they are somehow superior to everyone else in the area. Rocket tends to give them a reality slap by reminding them there isnt actually anything special about a overcrowded housing estate built in a former chalk pit. Jealousy? Probably not. Mattster

4:37pm Mon 16 May 11

rocket1 says...

i don't know who the drunken bum thinks i am,my wife works in brentwood.
i don't know who the drunken bum thinks i am,my wife works in brentwood. rocket1

6:41am Tue 17 May 11

lynnehornet says...

people who live on chafford you didnt notice this road usage on the plans befre you brought your house . yeh i sure the road was there before the housing estate .just like the pep who moan about a railway line running by their homes the railway line was there before they move in . theres one answer really shut up moaning and read you local map before you move in !!!!!!
people who live on chafford you didnt notice this road usage on the plans befre you brought your house . yeh i sure the road was there before the housing estate .just like the pep who moan about a railway line running by their homes the railway line was there before they move in . theres one answer really shut up moaning and read you local map before you move in !!!!!! lynnehornet

6:46am Tue 17 May 11

Drunken Master says...

You lot do tickle me, if you are not moaning about the Africans, Eastern europeans or travellers then you turn your moronic bitchyness to the people of Chafford. Get on with your lives and stop being so pathetic.
You lot do tickle me, if you are not moaning about the Africans, Eastern europeans or travellers then you turn your moronic bitchyness to the people of Chafford. Get on with your lives and stop being so pathetic. Drunken Master

1:21pm Tue 17 May 11

Dave_ says...

DM I know a number of people who moved into C100 and thought they were better, but it is no more than a housing estate built as said in old chalk pits.
In this case the road runs around the outskirts, if it went through the middle I could see the concern. I'm surprised they haven't moaned about the old A13.
DM I know a number of people who moved into C100 and thought they were better, but it is no more than a housing estate built as said in old chalk pits. In this case the road runs around the outskirts, if it went through the middle I could see the concern. I'm surprised they haven't moaned about the old A13. Dave_

2:08pm Tue 17 May 11

Bernard 87 says...

Why so much hatred to the residents of Chafford Hundred???
I personally dont think that Devonshire Road should be used for large lorries, but at the same time London Road does need some relief so I sympathise with the residents of West Thurrock/South Stifford. Surely all parties involved could come to a mutual agreement on this situation.

ps. It may be a housing estate built in a couple old chalk pits in Grays but its our old chalk pits
Why so much hatred to the residents of Chafford Hundred??? I personally dont think that Devonshire Road should be used for large lorries, but at the same time London Road does need some relief so I sympathise with the residents of West Thurrock/South Stifford. Surely all parties involved could come to a mutual agreement on this situation. ps. It may be a housing estate built in a couple old chalk pits in Grays but its our old chalk pits Bernard 87

3:20pm Tue 17 May 11

Drunken Master says...

Bernard 87 wrote:
Why so much hatred to the residents of Chafford Hundred???
I personally dont think that Devonshire Road should be used for large lorries, but at the same time London Road does need some relief so I sympathise with the residents of West Thurrock/South Stifford. Surely all parties involved could come to a mutual agreement on this situation.

ps. It may be a housing estate built in a couple old chalk pits in Grays but its our old chalk pits
I'll tell ya why Bernard, its reverse snobbery. I don't know what it is with certain people in this country but they frown and moan about anyone who wants to better themselves and live in a nice house in a nice area. The poeple of chafford don't think they are better than anyone else, most of them are from the surrounding areas and the east end, people who have worked and wanted a nice place to bring up their kids. Why can't you bitter morons respect that? I bet the people of Brandon Groves got the same attitude when they first moved in, new houses, they must be snobs, its just so childish and pathetic. So what if it was an old chalk pit, part of Grays was built on an old victorian chalk pit, who really cares.
[quote][p][bold]Bernard 87[/bold] wrote: Why so much hatred to the residents of Chafford Hundred??? I personally dont think that Devonshire Road should be used for large lorries, but at the same time London Road does need some relief so I sympathise with the residents of West Thurrock/South Stifford. Surely all parties involved could come to a mutual agreement on this situation. ps. It may be a housing estate built in a couple old chalk pits in Grays but its our old chalk pits[/p][/quote]I'll tell ya why Bernard, its reverse snobbery. I don't know what it is with certain people in this country but they frown and moan about anyone who wants to better themselves and live in a nice house in a nice area. The poeple of chafford don't think they are better than anyone else, most of them are from the surrounding areas and the east end, people who have worked and wanted a nice place to bring up their kids. Why can't you bitter morons respect that? I bet the people of Brandon Groves got the same attitude when they first moved in, new houses, they must be snobs, its just so childish and pathetic. So what if it was an old chalk pit, part of Grays was built on an old victorian chalk pit, who really cares. Drunken Master

4:27pm Tue 17 May 11

rocket1 says...

its an old chalk pit with a relief road running through it,people who live in south stifford and west thurrock want a chance to improve their quality of life by letting this road be used for the purpose it was designed and built for.is that such a crime?.
its an old chalk pit with a relief road running through it,people who live in south stifford and west thurrock want a chance to improve their quality of life by letting this road be used for the purpose it was designed and built for.is that such a crime?. rocket1

9:37pm Tue 17 May 11

RobF4 says...

I don't have an issue with this road being used. There should not be this level of lorrys outside anyones home. 

I live on Chafford, dragged myself out of Dagenham, i also do not feel that i'm better than anyone else. 

I do understand somes times the residents leave themselves wide open to abuse. However i have only seen hatred from the comments, no one moaning about the road being used. 
I don't have an issue with this road being used. There should not be this level of lorrys outside anyones home.  I live on Chafford, dragged myself out of Dagenham, i also do not feel that i'm better than anyone else.  I do understand somes times the residents leave themselves wide open to abuse. However i have only seen hatred from the comments, no one moaning about the road being used.  RobF4

10:58pm Tue 17 May 11

Bernard 87 says...

Drunken Master - thanks for your response...the ironic thing is that 99% of people in Chafford that I have met do not think they are better than anyone else. As RobF4 stated, many people managed to move here from less desirable places and simply want to keep it decent.
Its funny about Brandon Groves as a friend of mine who lives there says they also get accused of snobbery as they say they live in Brandon Groves rather than South Ockendon. Silly really.
Drunken Master - thanks for your response...the ironic thing is that 99% of people in Chafford that I have met do not think they are better than anyone else. As RobF4 stated, many people managed to move here from less desirable places and simply want to keep it decent. Its funny about Brandon Groves as a friend of mine who lives there says they also get accused of snobbery as they say they live in Brandon Groves rather than South Ockendon. Silly really. Bernard 87

7:05am Wed 18 May 11

Drunken Master says...

No problem Bernard, I don't usuallly post on these type of forums but I am sick to death of the chafford haters on here, rocket being one of the main culprits, and he can lie all he wants but the truth is his wife works at the campus. Surely that goes against his anti-chafford views or is he just a two faced mouth all-mighty?
The main problem here is the releif road, should it be opened for lorries or not? The bitter morons have turned it into a rant against people that want to live in a nice house, I notice they haven't directed any of the vile venom at the people of London Rd that are also complaining about the lorries. I thought the people of Brandon groves may have suffered the same pathetic bile that they are snobs. Lets all live in a council house just to please the no hopers of this country.
No problem Bernard, I don't usuallly post on these type of forums but I am sick to death of the chafford haters on here, rocket being one of the main culprits, and he can lie all he wants but the truth is his wife works at the campus. Surely that goes against his anti-chafford views or is he just a two faced mouth all-mighty? The main problem here is the releif road, should it be opened for lorries or not? The bitter morons have turned it into a rant against people that want to live in a nice house, I notice they haven't directed any of the vile venom at the people of London Rd that are also complaining about the lorries. I thought the people of Brandon groves may have suffered the same pathetic bile that they are snobs. Lets all live in a council house just to please the no hopers of this country. Drunken Master

10:36am Wed 18 May 11

Mattster says...

Bernard 87 wrote:
Why so much hatred to the residents of Chafford Hundred??? I personally dont think that Devonshire Road should be used for large lorries, but at the same time London Road does need some relief so I sympathise with the residents of West Thurrock/South Stifford. Surely all parties involved could come to a mutual agreement on this situation. ps. It may be a housing estate built in a couple old chalk pits in Grays but its our old chalk pits
The problem is Bernard that for years the residents of London Rd have suffered the HGV's thundering a few feet from their front doors - Devonshire Road was built to remove that traffic as shown on the literature distributed about 9 years ago. What then happened was the council went tory and the vocal NIMBYS of chafford decided that they didnt want those horrible old lorries anywhere near them and the riff-raff of South Stifford and West Thurrock would just have to continue putting up with them and it got voted through.

So you can see where the resentment comes from, it was the same with the O2 masts - the C100 NIMBYS werent happy until the proposed location was as near to South Stifford as possible.
[quote][p][bold]Bernard 87[/bold] wrote: Why so much hatred to the residents of Chafford Hundred??? I personally dont think that Devonshire Road should be used for large lorries, but at the same time London Road does need some relief so I sympathise with the residents of West Thurrock/South Stifford. Surely all parties involved could come to a mutual agreement on this situation. ps. It may be a housing estate built in a couple old chalk pits in Grays but its our old chalk pits[/p][/quote]The problem is Bernard that for years the residents of London Rd have suffered the HGV's thundering a few feet from their front doors - Devonshire Road was built to remove that traffic as shown on the literature distributed about 9 years ago. What then happened was the council went tory and the vocal NIMBYS of chafford decided that they didnt want those horrible old lorries anywhere near them and the riff-raff of South Stifford and West Thurrock would just have to continue putting up with them and it got voted through. So you can see where the resentment comes from, it was the same with the O2 masts - the C100 NIMBYS werent happy until the proposed location was as near to South Stifford as possible. Mattster

4:20pm Wed 18 May 11

rocket1 says...

don't forget the same tory crooks put up false weight limit signs at first that had no legal backing,then when that lie was exposed they held an ''inquiry'' that said a weight limit should be put on devonshire road coupled with an alternative route that by-passed south stifford,they quickly put up the weight limit signs but the alternative route part of the findings was swept under the carpet.
don't forget the same tory crooks put up false weight limit signs at first that had no legal backing,then when that lie was exposed they held an ''inquiry'' that said a weight limit should be put on devonshire road coupled with an alternative route that by-passed south stifford,they quickly put up the weight limit signs but the alternative route part of the findings was swept under the carpet. rocket1

6:47pm Wed 18 May 11

Mattster says...

rocket1 wrote:
don't forget the same tory crooks put up false weight limit signs at first that had no legal backing,then when that lie was exposed they held an ''inquiry'' that said a weight limit should be put on devonshire road coupled with an alternative route that by-passed south stifford,they quickly put up the weight limit signs but the alternative route part of the findings was swept under the carpet.
Indeed, the whole mess could be fixed if the council finished the relief road along the railway line from P&G to Wouldham road moving the lorries away from EVERYONES houses.

The site is cleared and empty, the development company by their own admission cannot afford to develop it into the fiddlers reach estate and the council will never get another opportunity.
[quote][p][bold]rocket1[/bold] wrote: don't forget the same tory crooks put up false weight limit signs at first that had no legal backing,then when that lie was exposed they held an ''inquiry'' that said a weight limit should be put on devonshire road coupled with an alternative route that by-passed south stifford,they quickly put up the weight limit signs but the alternative route part of the findings was swept under the carpet.[/p][/quote]Indeed, the whole mess could be fixed if the council finished the relief road along the railway line from P&G to Wouldham road moving the lorries away from EVERYONES houses. The site is cleared and empty, the development company by their own admission cannot afford to develop it into the fiddlers reach estate and the council will never get another opportunity. Mattster

8:31pm Wed 18 May 11

Bernard 87 says...

Mattster - the relief road sounds like the best solution to such an ongoing problem, taking traffic away from London Road, this is why coming under county council control is good, as the road would probably have been finished rather than relying on the local council , tory or labour, to finish the job.

I think people elsewhere in Thurrock seem to have a complex about Chafford people but it seems very one sided as most Chafford people dont look at the residents of West Thurrock or South Stifford as riff raff - we're all apart of Grays!
Mattster - the relief road sounds like the best solution to such an ongoing problem, taking traffic away from London Road, this is why coming under county council control is good, as the road would probably have been finished rather than relying on the local council , tory or labour, to finish the job. I think people elsewhere in Thurrock seem to have a complex about Chafford people but it seems very one sided as most Chafford people dont look at the residents of West Thurrock or South Stifford as riff raff - we're all apart of Grays! Bernard 87

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