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c2c confident despite rail line uncertainty


THURROCK rail passengers could see big changes if the running of the borough’s train service is awarded to a new company.

The Government said the Essex Thameside franchise, operated as c2c by National Express, will expire in May 2011, with bids to run it being accepted from next summer.

Rival companies have already said they would consider bidding, including Stagecoach and Virgin Trains.

c2c run the London Fenchurch line through Thurrock which stops at Grays, Tilbury Town, East Tilbury, Stanford-Le-Hope, Ockendon, Chafford Hundred and Purfleet.

The uncertainty was heightened last week when the Government pulled the plug on National Express’ Liverpool Street line franchise three years early.

Spokesman for Thurrock Rail Users Group, Roger Pope, 35, of Shaw Crescent, Tilbury, said: “I don’t think anything is going to happen before the general election, it is still very early days.

“The service has been good in regards to punctuality and reliability. There is only between 40 and 45 miles of track so not much can go wrong.

“Until we know who is going to be in the bidding process it is hard to say what will happen.”

Leading Labour councillor Carl Morris said: “We want better services that should run for the customer and not for profit.

“My preference is that it would be in public ownership and any profits be ploughed back into reducing fares because c2c customers have seen a lot of fare increases.”

Conservative councillor Robert Gledhill said: “I want to try and keep fares down for local people and keep the punctuality rate at over 95 per cent.”

c2c was named joint first in the country in a passenger satisfaction report earlier this year.

Ellen Rossiter, spokesman for c2c and National Express, said the company had just scored 98 per cent for punctuality in a recent survey.

She added: “We look forward to continuing to operate this successful train line and will review the invitation to tender documents when they are issued by the Department of Transport next summer.”

Ashwin Kumar, director of rail watchdog Passenger Focus, said the group would make sure customers would be considered in any new deal.


Your Say YourThurrock

Don South, says...
3:10pm Fri 27 Nov 09

Back to state ownership and back to the misery line! Strikes, late trains and a drain on the taxpayer!

kbatts, Aveley says...
4:36pm Fri 27 Nov 09

If it is not broken, Then why fix it ? When a franchise can boast 95% plus punctuality and reliability figures, then it's going to be very hard to better that. A new broom might not be a good idea.

Mattster, Grays says...
11:23pm Fri 27 Nov 09

c2c are only getting high punctuality figures by stretching journey times.

Grays to fenchurch st is now a minimum of 37 mins - that used to be 34 mins a few years ago.

kbatts, Aveley says...
7:29pm Sat 28 Nov 09

Sorry Mattster i don't agree, journey times maybe stretched a little. but they depart and arrive on time, other lines can't even boast that, they are an efficient team.

Mattster, Grays says...
8:29pm Sat 28 Nov 09

Its called moving the goalposts, any line can be 'punctual' if you build in a big enougth time buffer into the timetable. Personally i would rather get home from work quicker than sit for 2-3 mins at purfleet because the train hasnt encountered congestion on the way from fen st and is running 'early'.

Still New blood onboard soon once c2c get the boot from the franchise.

kbatts, Aveley says...
9:53pm Sat 28 Nov 09

Point taken Mattster, But do you really believe a new franchise is going to get you home 2 or 3 minutes quicker, i have travelled on that line long enough to know that the present franchise do a good job. and if you have a problem they do listen and they do act on it. In the past the various previous owners have had a very poor track record, maybe it's better to work with who we have now rather than hoping that a new franchise will make it all better.

Mattster, Grays says...
11:41pm Sat 28 Nov 09

kbatts wrote:
Point taken Mattster, But do you really believe a new franchise is going to get you home 2 or 3 minutes quicker, i have travelled on that line long enough to know that the present franchise do a good job. and if you have a problem they do listen and they do act on it. In the past the various previous owners have had a very poor track record, maybe it's better to work with who we have now rather than hoping that a new franchise will make it all better.
Dont get me wrong things have improved but the current adverts comparing c2c to swiss railways maybe pushing it :)

Lets hope we get 12 coach trains on the tilbury loop soon - whoever is running it :)

kbatts, Aveley says...
12:34am Sun 29 Nov 09

absolutely agree with that statement Mattster.

karen29, Grays says...
9:06am Sun 29 Nov 09

Comrade Carl wants the railways nationalised - I wonder if that will be in the Labour party manifesto otherwise that statement is just pointless.

SendVic, Essex says...
11:52am Mon 30 Nov 09

The Gazette clearly hasn't checked it's facts here.
The NXEA franchise isn't being ended 3 years early - it's not being extended by 3 years. I.E It's terminating on time.

Journey's from Grays have got slightly longer, owing to the amount of trains that now need to call at Limehouse and West Ham to meet demand.

The 34 minute comparison is at a time where West Ham station didn't exist, and Limehouse was "Stepney East" and didn't have demands of Canary Wharf to meet.

jb411, stanford le hope says...
3:07pm Mon 30 Nov 09

The platforms on this line cannot accommodate 12 coach trains. I have been travelling on this line since 1971 and it is at the moment the best it has ever been. Although I wish we could have some "fast" trains like we used to have i.e. Grays Rainham Fenchurch St. only like the Basildon have some of their trains have first stop Basildon from Fenchurch St.

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