Thurrock councillors attend World Aids Day Event (From Thurrock Gazette)
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Thurrock councillors attend World Aids Day Event
5:15pm Monday 1st December 2008 in News
From left: Cllr Bukky Okunade, Cllr Tunde Ojetola, Veena O'Sullivan, Pastor Akin Laosun, Funke Laosun, Kate Muwoki, Winnie Curtis and Victor Oladele.
THURROCK councillors Tunde Ojetola and Bukky Okunade attended a commemoration event for World Aids Day at the Gates of Praise Christian Centre yesterday.
The event, at the church on Belmont Road in Grays, was organised by sexual health charity the Terrence Higgins Trust.
It featured guest speakers and a drama performance by church members, highlighting the important role faith communities play in HIV prevention.
Comments(32)
Barabara
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6:28pm Mon 1 Dec 08
She along with councillor Tunde Ojetola did not snub a commemoration event for World Aids Day, an event not even in her ward, yet looking at the photo its not hard to understand why she attended.
And we are told aids and TB are not a problem in Britain.
HIV cases in Britain reach 77,400 after year on year record rises, the number of new cases was 15 per cent up with two-thirds of these cases were acquired outside the UK- most from sub-Saharan Africa -triggering renewed calls yesterday for immigrants to be screened.
Tory health spokesman Tim Yeo said: "We cannot justify ignoring the health of those who apply to live permanently in the UK. Not conducting basic health checks for serious diseases such as TB or HIV both disadvantages the applicant and overloads the NHS."
Sir Andrew Green of Migration Watch, said immigrants wishing to stay in Britain should be screened before they arrived. "There is a substantial problem in the UK and we should not add to it," he said.
Gay men and African people are most likely to have undiagnosed HIV in the UK so we would urge people in those groups in particular to recognise their level of risk and get tested.
Lisa Power, of the HIV charity Terrence Higgins Trust.
Baphomet
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5:43am Tue 2 Dec 08
pa
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9:16am Tue 2 Dec 08
I bet all those cancer patients denied the drugs they need to keep them alive after paying into the system for decades are over the moon at this governemnts policy of mass immigration from outside the EU.
Strange how a disease like TB which was eradicated in this country through the vaccination programme suddenly becomes prevalent in this country at the same time that we have mass immigration.
Makes my heart skip a beat when I think of all the benefits we've received from mass immigration.
Don South
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10:52am Tue 2 Dec 08
Britain has an explosion of STDs.
Any publicity is good publicity and last time i looked AIDS/HIV isnt a 'black' disease.
Baphomet
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3:51pm Tue 2 Dec 08
Michael Stevens
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7:09pm Tue 2 Dec 08
So you can guess why she is back among African issues and snubs Tilbury.
It is believed, unbelievably, that former Independent candidate June Brown has been approached to replace ms Ockunade in the 2010 council elections, even after the way labour treated her. .
After all those years service June, don't let the Labour Party make a mug out of you again.
Barabara
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7:14pm Tue 2 Dec 08
As you do correctly say AIDS/HIV isn't only a black disease, no its not, but in Britain it is a immigration problem, open your eyes and read my other thread again, all these figures and quotations from people are pointing to immigration and until you accept that you cant cure the problem.
Don South
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10:31am Wed 3 Dec 08
Let Me Out
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10:57am Wed 3 Dec 08
pa
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1:32pm Wed 3 Dec 08
If you even sound like you support or agree with the BNP you face the prospect of having your details published on the internet.
How very democratic and open our government is. I wonder what else Nanny and her bouncers will will pass into the staute book this afternoon. I bet it won't be help for cancer patients who are dying because they are denied the drugs they need. But if you come here with an incurable disease from another country feel free to use the NHS at no cost whatsoever.
Health care rationing for those that have paid for it all their lives but free healthcare for those that have just arrived. The government has prioritised who should live and who should die on the basis of front line cost and not on the basis of who has paid for it. One more benefit of mass immigration.
Baphomet
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3:46pm Wed 3 Dec 08
Joe Public™
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4:35pm Wed 3 Dec 08
- everyone who doesn't agree with there one way drivel is a somehow 'commie' or a 'leftie'
- making wild assumptions beyond the scope of the original article, even on a personal level.
etc etc i'm sure you can see the pattern for yourself.
blinded by their own bigotry, i think they are still sulking about the 'real bnp' leaking their members list.
same old bigoted nonsense from the usual suspects. but you have to admit it does make a hilarious read!
nationalists: the new clowns of the age. :) shame they can't see they are the exact opposite of everything they cry about...
aww it's OK rightie loonies, come here have a hug.
Barabara
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11:39pm Wed 3 Dec 08
As for the bnp list, a snippet from a article online and by your humorous attitude you go along with. Police were called in to investigate after 52 apparently willing vigilante arsonists signed up to a Facebook website plot to "Firebomb Every BNP Household In Britain;.
But you communists think it funny when the bnp list went on line but went so happy when your own list went on line bleating about there privacy, funny they did not extend this privilege to the bnp members, smacks of hypocrisy.
Barabara
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11:39pm Wed 3 Dec 08
As for the bnp list, a snippet from a article online and by your humorous attitude you go along with. Police were called in to investigate after 52 apparently willing vigilante arsonists signed up to a Facebook website plot to "Firebomb Every BNP Household In Britain;.
But you communists think it funny when the bnp list went on line but went so happy when your own list went on line bleating about there privacy, funny they did not extend this privilege to the bnp members, smacks of hypocrisy.
Baphomet
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8:43am Thu 4 Dec 08
pa
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12:34pm Thu 4 Dec 08
As was said earlier, bury your head to the facts and it won't be dealt with. Clearly the people in the photo are recognising the facts. In the meantime everyone else picks up the tab. Have you not heard of health tourism Joe. Only difference in this country is the cost is zero to the tourist and because of rationing on the health service, a health service the government so proudly told us they had spent tens of billions more on, other people lose their lives. Where did all the money go Joe.
Same place as all the extra billions on education, to provide services to the millions this government has let into the country.
Barabara
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10:47pm Thu 4 Dec 08
All Party Parliamentary Group on AIDS, House of Commons
19 July 2005
In publishing "Taking Action" we announced that we would put at least £1.5 billion over three years into tackling AIDS. The largest ever UK investment on AIDS. This was Britains contribution to a G8 world aids have estimated how much is needed to do more to fight AIDS in low and middle income countries. They think that at least $15 billion is needed in 2006, $18 billion in 2007, and $22 billion in 2008.
All this aid to fight Aids yet year on year the world figure goes up and immigration goes up and Britains Aids number goes up but to what good, all that money for no progress and our NHS deficite was 1.3 billion we could have baild the NHS out and everyone could have had there drugs we could not afford.
All this aid to fight Aids yet year on year the world figure goes up and immigration goes up and Britain's Aids number goes up but to what good, all that money for no progress and our NHS deficit was 1.3 billion we could have bailed the NHS out and everyone could have had there drugs we could not afford.
The Contrarian
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8:54am Fri 5 Dec 08
Certainly we shouldn't be frightened to acknowledge that the increase in the number of cases (in the UK) of HIV and AIDS is inextricobly linked to migration; however, I'd be surprised if infection rates among white British aren't also on the increase. Because the broadsheets and left leaning media are frightened to acknowledge this fact (probably out of a warped sense of political correctness) it gives ammunition to the ar5eholes that post here.
I agree with everything that Joe Public says - apart from his comment about Nationalists. I consider myself to be a nationalist and certainly don't subscribe to the views that the BNP supporters here subscribe to. It's time to reclaim the right wing, nationalist agenda from these 'sock puppets'
Barabara
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12:47pm Fri 5 Dec 08
You don't sound to intelligent , you wish to reclaim the rightwing but your views are so leftwing your perception of rightwing will be communism.
BNP are not rightwing or leftwing, help the workers to a better life but also help business as well, look after all walks of the indigenous population.
You and Joe Public give the game away to easy as you revert to abusing threaders and talk the uaf ethnic talk and name calling but not adding anything productive to debate.
As for you considering yourself to be a nationalist, What one Nigerian, Kenyan, or mixed confused one.
We are True Nationalists to our heritage evolved and developed over centauries and you will never highjack it because you'll never be a British Nationalists.
The Contrarian
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3:07pm Fri 5 Dec 08
It's typical of the BNP to try and classify itself as being neither right nor leftwing. All things to all (or some) men eh? Pretty typical when your support is so low.
Lastly, your final paragraph is contradictory. You claim that you are "True Nationalists to our heritage evolved and developed over centauries (SP)" By definition 'evolution' and 'development' aren't static concepts. Therefore, you'd have to recognise that our national identity has and always will be, quite fluid. That's not traitorous, that's a fact of life.
OckendonPaul
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8:32pm Fri 5 Dec 08
You seem able to re-write the dictionary. I remember earlier posts where you didn't care how many immigrants were in our country yet now you claim to be a nationalist! only a cont could think like that.
22 million in Africa are living with AIDS (AVERT statistics), and don't forget we introduced them to schools and hospitals, but still you claim that more were wiped out by our diseases. Only a cont would believe such a thing!
You also claim that our identity is "fluid" and forever changing. Sorry, wrong again. It remained largely unchanged from 1066 until the 1950's (apart from a sprinkling of hugenots and jews)but since then has changed beyond recognition. I watched "the second world war in colour" on TV recently. I saw the inner city street parties on VE day. I saw the familie and kids who were there. Please let no one ever again say "we've always been a a nation of immigrants". Only a cont would.
And what of the future? How do you see this country in 100 years? Still some fluffy rainbow nation or a country riven by strife, a battleground between islam and sub-saharan Africa, do you really think the way it is now is the way it always will be?
Sometimes I wish I was a cont, your ignorance must be truly blissful..
Barabara
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11:00pm Fri 5 Dec 08
Everyone knows that you right of centre hard-left communists live in a nightmare dream world based on your own hate-filled pre-conceptions, but sometimes the comments you come out with expose not just your dishonesty, but your crass stupidity, your not left-wing, but I’m a Nazi, its only fascism if we do it yes? .
Obviously your identity is the mixed and confused one like your political identity comment “I’m right of centre communist” that one confused the hell out of me. You want everyone to accept that our national identity has and always will be; quite fluid because it’s the only hope you have left to fit in. I know who I am, you don’t but want to.
The Indian and Japanese identity evolved and developed over centauries also, would you call their identity, quite fluid? I bet not because you don’t want to fit in there, you split hairs to try to include your ethnic background and be accepted.
You are no more a British/English national than I would be an Indian national in India.
But again you force the thread to a slagging match of political views rather than positive debate.
Joe Public™
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2:50am Sat 6 Dec 08
Take it as a measure of sucess Contrarian, they don't quite understand the concept of debate, or patriotism, 'freedom of speech' or even what the party they follow like lemmings stands for.
I'm sure they can all prove there heritage to pre roman times, so at least we know they are truly British!
Amazing that a mind can be so narrow. 'red joe' indeed, thanks for proving my point.
It's abundantly clear that they are more worried about persons in the same racial/political mindset as them becoming a minority, not the "white race" to utilise a pigeon hole.
AIDS doesn't discriminate, but nationalists do. I hope yourselves or your families never get this disease, but if that should happen lets hope there are kind hearted decent people to help in your care. - But only if there white enough I presume?
It's also worth noting that once it's realised they are on the back foot, attempts are made to try to claim some manner of morale high ground. The irony of which is just as amusing as the original post.
Maybe they should call themselves the British moan and whine constantly party? it's a load of bickering over a VERY small portion of the vote anyway.
WELL DONE Cllr Bukky Okunade, Cllr Tunde Ojetola, Veena O'Sullivan, Pastor Akin Laosun, Funke Laosun, Kate Muwoki, Winnie Curtis and Victor Oladele. Keep up the good work!
Joe Public™
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3:54am Sat 6 Dec 08
http://uk.youtube.co
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Baphomet
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4:53pm Sat 6 Dec 08
The Contrarian wrote:Cont, who really cares what happened all those years ago, we are talking about now!!
Baphomet, I've just read your post (2nd December 3:51) and wondered if those on the African Continent weren't saying pretty much the same thing when our forebares landed on their shores all those years ago. Certainly the diseases Europeans took to Africa (and elsewhere in the colonies) wiped out a greater proportion of the population than Aids has so far! Certainly we shouldn't be frightened to acknowledge that the increase in the number of cases (in the UK) of HIV and AIDS is inextricobly linked to migration; however, I'd be surprised if infection rates among white British aren't also on the increase. Because the broadsheets and left leaning media are frightened to acknowledge this fact (probably out of a warped sense of political correctness) it gives ammunition to the ar5eholes that post here. I agree with everything that Joe Public says - apart from his comment about Nationalists. I consider myself to be a nationalist and certainly don't subscribe to the views that the BNP supporters here subscribe to. It's time to reclaim the right wing, nationalist agenda from these 'sock puppets'
Barabara
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10:00pm Sat 6 Dec 08
Joe Public™ wrote:The real face of the uaf left wing.
the manner of person the bnp attract: http://uk.youtube.co m/watch?v=FppFrzulsd o
For anyone wanting the truth go to youtube have a look and make your own minds up.
type in the following.
Violent & Mentally Unstable Left Wing.
Riot - police vs militant activists
Battle Of Welling
Anti-fascist demo, London, 5/2/2008
Antifa vs. Police
Now have a look at the real face of the British National Partyt.
Keith Brown Rally in Stoke
Nick Griffin closing address RWB 2008
The term antifa derives from Antifaschismus, which is German for anti-fascism. Militant anti-fascism is a form of anti-fascism that advocates the use of violence against fascists. some anti-fascist groups include the word antifa in their name. In contemporary times, the term antifa is used almost exclusively by left-wing groups.
Real nice friends of yours red joe maybe you should sign up Don South and the Contrarian for Antifa england if they are not already..
Barabara
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10:13pm Sat 6 Dec 08
A new approach.
I posted official government figures here and quotes from Tory health spokesman Tim Yeo, Sir Andrew Green of Migration Watch and Lisa Power, of the HIV charity Terrence Higgins Trust to legitimise my claim in my first thread.
Instead of slagging me and name calling the BNP can either you Joe Public or The Contrarian come up with anything that don't support what i'm saying is the truth.
Barabara
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10:49am Mon 8 Dec 08
Full story on http://councillorwat
ch.blogspot.com/
Joe Public and The Contrarian your silent apologies are accepted.
The Contrarian
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11:41am Mon 8 Dec 08
OckendonPaul wrote:I'm not re-writing the dictionary at all. Although to be honest, you'd do well to read one. You're quite right, I did write in an earlier post that I wasn't particularly bothered about immigrants coming here, but I was merely (then) considering the matter from a "public resources" point of view. I'm fortunate enough not to have to rely on the state for my (or my family's) healthcare nor do I rely on it to educate my kids. Anyway, I digress. The point is, that it is possible to be a nationalist and still be in favour of some immigration. (For the record, I've never advocated unlimited immigration). Immigration and nationalism (look it up in the dictionary if you have one) aren't as diametrically opposed as you think.
It must be wonderful to be a Contrarian (don't mind if I call you "cont" for short?) You seem able to re-write the dictionary. I remember earlier posts where you didn't care how many immigrants were in our country yet now you claim to be a nationalist! only a cont could think like that. 22 million in Africa are living with AIDS (AVERT statistics), and don't forget we introduced them to schools and hospitals, but still you claim that more were wiped out by our diseases. Only a cont would believe such a thing! You also claim that our identity is "fluid" and forever changing. Sorry, wrong again. It remained largely unchanged from 1066 until the 1950's (apart from a sprinkling of hugenots and jews)but since then has changed beyond recognition. I watched "the second world war in colour" on TV recently. I saw the inner city street parties on VE day. I saw the familie and kids who were there. Please let no one ever again say "we've always been a a nation of immigrants". Only a cont would. And what of the future? How do you see this country in 100 years? Still some fluffy rainbow nation or a country riven by strife, a battleground between islam and sub-saharan Africa, do you really think the way it is now is the way it always will be? Sometimes I wish I was a cont, your ignorance must be truly blissful..
With regards to you third paragraph. Can you actually read? If you go back and read what I wrote, you'll see that I made reference to the proportion of the population. I wasn't referring to hard numbers.
Your fourth paragraph is brilliant. By using the word "largely" and then including "apart from a sprinkling" you make my point for me. Of course it's easier to move around now so it's only natural that genetic make-up will change (everywhere). This needn't be a bad thing.
With regards to where I see this country in 100 years! I don't even know what's going to happen next year. If I could see 100 years into the future, I'd be a very wealthy man.
With regards to the relative blissfulness of ignorance, surely you and your BNP colleagues would be best placed to consider that!
Ordinarily I wouldn't waste my time even commenting on your views (although I do accept your right to have them). The only reason I post is to ensure that those that do read this know Thurrock isn't a hotbed of BNP activity and that your/their views don't go unchallenged.
The Contrarian
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12:48pm Mon 8 Dec 08
Your post of 6th December 2008 doesn't make sense. I didn't question the figures. I went so far as to agree with and accept them.
I wasn't the one who started spouting off a load of rubbish because the faces in the photograph were black!
With regards to you post of 8th December. Of course stories like that are not good to hear. I've yet to read the article, but unless these women were raped (the headline doesn't suggest they were) they'll have learned a very hard and painful lesson.
Lastly, (on behalf of myself - and dare I say- Joe Public) Felthouse v Bindley.
pa
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8:49am Tue 9 Dec 08
The people in the photo are Africans because this is an issue that largely affects immigrants, not just from Africa but from Eastern Europe and Asia as well. We all know what a problem AIDS is in Africa and to deny it is ridiculous.
As with diseases like TB, they were not prevalent in this country and AIDS was on the decrease before the introduction of mass immigration, the cause in the rise of both these diseases.
As the women in the last post learned a harsh lesson, people from around the world should also learn the harsh lesson that treatments for terminal or long term diseases come at a cost to them and not at the expense in money and lives to the British public.
This government is very quick to demonise people who smoke, drink, eat too much or don't exercise and they are quick to say that treatment will be withheld if they don't change their ways. Unfortunately AIDS is another disease that many people contract through their own actions and disregard for their own health yet because it's still a fashionable cause among the circles of the government, no such criticism will ever be levelled against it.
Barabara
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4:23pm Tue 9 Dec 08
The Contrarian wrote:Don't think anyone can ever call the bnp thugs ever again as these pictures clearly show who the real undemocratic thugs are, your friends in london from Antifa.
Barabara, Your post of 6th December 2008 doesn't make sense. I didn't question the figures. I went so far as to agree with and accept them. I wasn't the one who started spouting off a load of rubbish because the faces in the photograph were black! With regards to you post of 8th December. Of course stories like that are not good to hear. I've yet to read the article, but unless these women were raped (the headline doesn't suggest they were) they'll have learned a very hard and painful lesson. Lastly, (on behalf of myself - and dare I say- Joe Public) Felthouse v Bindley.
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