Thurrock Council leader calls on government to scrap Dartford Crossing toll increase

Thurrock Gazette: The government want to increase the cost of the toll from £2 to £2.50. The government want to increase the cost of the toll from £2 to £2.50.

COUNCIL leader John Kent has called on the government to scrap proposals to increase the Dartford Crossing toll charge by 25 percent.

The government want to increase the cost of crossing from £2 to £2.50, as well as the introduction of the free-flow toll system in October.

Councillor Kent said he has written to the Secretary of State for Transport Patrick McLoughlin asking for the proposed rise to at least be postponed if not scrapped altogether.

H said: “Although I continue to urge all local residents to sign up for the crossing discount and for the government to extend that to Thurrock-based business too, I fear the rise plus the plans for the crossing will lead to confusion and chaos.”

Councillor Kent added: “Putting the price up at the same time as changing the system is daft enough, but they’re planning on putting the tolls up at the same time as imposing a 20mph speed limit while the toll booths and barriers are being demolished.”

The Highways Agency has said the new free flow toll system will improve congestion, but its own figures suggest it could cost as much as £21m a year in unpaid charges from foreign drivers.

The existing crossing is used by 140,000 vehicles a day.

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4:55pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Biker One says...

That's rich for a labour Councillor, considering it's his party that is in part responsible for unprecedented immigration to our tiny isle.
Save your breath John, you're pi**ing against the wind, the damage has already been done and nothing you're going to say will change that!
That's rich for a labour Councillor, considering it's his party that is in part responsible for unprecedented immigration to our tiny isle. Save your breath John, you're pi**ing against the wind, the damage has already been done and nothing you're going to say will change that! Biker One
  • Score: 4

5:02pm Tue 28 Jan 14

John T Pharro says...

Scrap the charges yes. Chances of that happening for this cash cow ZERO.
Scrap the charges yes. Chances of that happening for this cash cow ZERO. John T Pharro
  • Score: 13

5:18pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Howard Cháse says...

Scrap the toll altogether as promised decades ago and remove the tollbooth plaza and watch the free flowing traffic and smile
Scrap the toll altogether as promised decades ago and remove the tollbooth plaza and watch the free flowing traffic and smile Howard Cháse
  • Score: 18

7:13pm Tue 28 Jan 14

You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat says...

Increase it, help the environment
Increase it, help the environment You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat
  • Score: -13

9:23pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Nebs says...

Impose a toll on EVERY Thames crossing, why discriminate against the people of Essex and Kent.
Impose a toll on EVERY Thames crossing, why discriminate against the people of Essex and Kent. Nebs
  • Score: 7

11:42pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Rob-C100 says...

It's easy money for any Government - it will never be scrapped.
It's easy money for any Government - it will never be scrapped. Rob-C100
  • Score: 7

9:11am Wed 29 Jan 14

Kim Gandy says...

Biker One wrote:
That's rich for a labour Councillor, considering it's his party that is in part responsible for unprecedented immigration to our tiny isle.
Save your breath John, you're pi**ing against the wind, the damage has already been done and nothing you're going to say will change that!
I totally agree. Labour councillors and MPs are **** good at hypocrisy. They take it to an art form.

As far as I'm concerned the only satisfactory solution is scrapping it altogether but charging foreign vehicles to use it as they pay no UK road tax.

We've paid for it a million times over through taxes and tolls. Get rid I say. That'll sort out the traffic flow problems too.
[quote][p][bold]Biker One[/bold] wrote: That's rich for a labour Councillor, considering it's his party that is in part responsible for unprecedented immigration to our tiny isle. Save your breath John, you're pi**ing against the wind, the damage has already been done and nothing you're going to say will change that![/p][/quote]I totally agree. Labour councillors and MPs are **** good at hypocrisy. They take it to an art form. As far as I'm concerned the only satisfactory solution is scrapping it altogether but charging foreign vehicles to use it as they pay no UK road tax. We've paid for it a million times over through taxes and tolls. Get rid I say. That'll sort out the traffic flow problems too. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 2

9:13am Wed 29 Jan 14

Kim Gandy says...

You'dfeelbetterforkn
owingthat
wrote:
Increase it, help the environment
How will that help the environment? Typical leftie comment.

People don't use the Dartford crossing for fun. They obviously need it to commute to work or to see family or to use the Channel and other ports.

You never think out your comments do you, just randomly throw out ridiculous suggestions.

Increasing the toll would in no way help the environment because the money all goes in the pockets of fatcats - the sort of people who are driven about in chauffeur driven limos. Why not target them?

You're way off the mark again as your thumbs downs show.
[quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: Increase it, help the environment[/p][/quote]How will that help the environment? Typical leftie comment. People don't use the Dartford crossing for fun. They obviously need it to commute to work or to see family or to use the Channel and other ports. You never think out your comments do you, just randomly throw out ridiculous suggestions. Increasing the toll would in no way help the environment because the money all goes in the pockets of fatcats - the sort of people who are driven about in chauffeur driven limos. Why not target them? You're way off the mark again as your thumbs downs show. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 1

9:29am Wed 29 Jan 14

Kim Gandy says...

The toll paid off the crossing years ago and the charge is now classed as a "congestion charge".

The only beneficiaries of that are the Government who clearly do not reinvest it in the road network, given the state of the roads in this country now. It certainly hasn't relieved congestion. It CREATES congestion. So it's a contradiction in terms.

And allowing mass uncontrolled immigration doesn't help either. It puts more pressure on the roads and a lot of folk come to this country and don't pay road tax. I was pranged by somebody in Wickford who was from some other country and was not insured. I know other people who have suffered a similar fate.

So once again, the hardworking British taxpayer stumps up for something that is now widely used by foreign vehicles.

Huge lorries from the EU form a large part of its usage every day. I use the crossing a lot and sometimes have to overtake large convoys of foreign-plated lorries.

And when the new ANPR system is introduced the crossing will make losses of around £6m a year as it is suggested that there will be around 7 percent of people that won't bother to pay. A significant number of these, according to statistics could well be foreign HGVs.

Dartford crossing is used by approximately 140,000 vehicles a day.

That's some serious bunce.
The toll paid off the crossing years ago and the charge is now classed as a "congestion charge". The only beneficiaries of that are the Government who clearly do not reinvest it in the road network, given the state of the roads in this country now. It certainly hasn't relieved congestion. It CREATES congestion. So it's a contradiction in terms. And allowing mass uncontrolled immigration doesn't help either. It puts more pressure on the roads and a lot of folk come to this country and don't pay road tax. I was pranged by somebody in Wickford who was from some other country and was not insured. I know other people who have suffered a similar fate. So once again, the hardworking British taxpayer stumps up for something that is now widely used by foreign vehicles. Huge lorries from the EU form a large part of its usage every day. I use the crossing a lot and sometimes have to overtake large convoys of foreign-plated lorries. And when the new ANPR system is introduced the crossing will make losses of around £6m a year as it is suggested that there will be around 7 percent of people that won't bother to pay. A significant number of these, according to statistics could well be foreign HGVs. Dartford crossing is used by approximately 140,000 vehicles a day. That's some serious bunce. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 2

10:13am Wed 29 Jan 14

Howard Cháse says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
The toll paid off the crossing years ago and the charge is now classed as a "congestion charge".

The only beneficiaries of that are the Government who clearly do not reinvest it in the road network, given the state of the roads in this country now. It certainly hasn't relieved congestion. It CREATES congestion. So it's a contradiction in terms.

And allowing mass uncontrolled immigration doesn't help either. It puts more pressure on the roads and a lot of folk come to this country and don't pay road tax. I was pranged by somebody in Wickford who was from some other country and was not insured. I know other people who have suffered a similar fate.

So once again, the hardworking British taxpayer stumps up for something that is now widely used by foreign vehicles.

Huge lorries from the EU form a large part of its usage every day. I use the crossing a lot and sometimes have to overtake large convoys of foreign-plated lorries.

And when the new ANPR system is introduced the crossing will make losses of around £6m a year as it is suggested that there will be around 7 percent of people that won't bother to pay. A significant number of these, according to statistics could well be foreign HGVs.

Dartford crossing is used by approximately 140,000 vehicles a day.

That's some serious bunce.
They charge. Result ? Congestion.


yep you're right. It is a congestion charge alright.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: The toll paid off the crossing years ago and the charge is now classed as a "congestion charge". The only beneficiaries of that are the Government who clearly do not reinvest it in the road network, given the state of the roads in this country now. It certainly hasn't relieved congestion. It CREATES congestion. So it's a contradiction in terms. And allowing mass uncontrolled immigration doesn't help either. It puts more pressure on the roads and a lot of folk come to this country and don't pay road tax. I was pranged by somebody in Wickford who was from some other country and was not insured. I know other people who have suffered a similar fate. So once again, the hardworking British taxpayer stumps up for something that is now widely used by foreign vehicles. Huge lorries from the EU form a large part of its usage every day. I use the crossing a lot and sometimes have to overtake large convoys of foreign-plated lorries. And when the new ANPR system is introduced the crossing will make losses of around £6m a year as it is suggested that there will be around 7 percent of people that won't bother to pay. A significant number of these, according to statistics could well be foreign HGVs. Dartford crossing is used by approximately 140,000 vehicles a day. That's some serious bunce.[/p][/quote]They charge. Result ? Congestion. yep you're right. It is a congestion charge alright. Howard Cháse
  • Score: 3

12:57pm Wed 29 Jan 14

pembury53 says...

Howard Cháse wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote: The toll paid off the crossing years ago and the charge is now classed as a "congestion charge". The only beneficiaries of that are the Government who clearly do not reinvest it in the road network, given the state of the roads in this country now. It certainly hasn't relieved congestion. It CREATES congestion. So it's a contradiction in terms. And allowing mass uncontrolled immigration doesn't help either. It puts more pressure on the roads and a lot of folk come to this country and don't pay road tax. I was pranged by somebody in Wickford who was from some other country and was not insured. I know other people who have suffered a similar fate. So once again, the hardworking British taxpayer stumps up for something that is now widely used by foreign vehicles. Huge lorries from the EU form a large part of its usage every day. I use the crossing a lot and sometimes have to overtake large convoys of foreign-plated lorries. And when the new ANPR system is introduced the crossing will make losses of around £6m a year as it is suggested that there will be around 7 percent of people that won't bother to pay. A significant number of these, according to statistics could well be foreign HGVs. Dartford crossing is used by approximately 140,000 vehicles a day. That's some serious bunce.
They charge. Result ? Congestion. yep you're right. It is a congestion charge alright.
yep it is indeed hilarious that the legislation sneaked in to shift from 'toll' to 'charge' is supposed to reduce congestion ! however, how much of the charges do the government actually get ? I thought this was all flogged off post legislation to some private consortium, previously known as 'le crossing' or some other ridiculous label, so they could line their pockets indefinately whilst the hapless motorist sits in 5 mile queues gulping down deisel smoke ....... 'le fleece' would be more appropriate i think, and i wish people had longer memories come election time.......
[quote][p][bold]Howard Cháse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: The toll paid off the crossing years ago and the charge is now classed as a "congestion charge". The only beneficiaries of that are the Government who clearly do not reinvest it in the road network, given the state of the roads in this country now. It certainly hasn't relieved congestion. It CREATES congestion. So it's a contradiction in terms. And allowing mass uncontrolled immigration doesn't help either. It puts more pressure on the roads and a lot of folk come to this country and don't pay road tax. I was pranged by somebody in Wickford who was from some other country and was not insured. I know other people who have suffered a similar fate. So once again, the hardworking British taxpayer stumps up for something that is now widely used by foreign vehicles. Huge lorries from the EU form a large part of its usage every day. I use the crossing a lot and sometimes have to overtake large convoys of foreign-plated lorries. And when the new ANPR system is introduced the crossing will make losses of around £6m a year as it is suggested that there will be around 7 percent of people that won't bother to pay. A significant number of these, according to statistics could well be foreign HGVs. Dartford crossing is used by approximately 140,000 vehicles a day. That's some serious bunce.[/p][/quote]They charge. Result ? Congestion. yep you're right. It is a congestion charge alright.[/p][/quote]yep it is indeed hilarious that the legislation sneaked in to shift from 'toll' to 'charge' is supposed to reduce congestion ! however, how much of the charges do the government actually get ? I thought this was all flogged off post legislation to some private consortium, previously known as 'le crossing' or some other ridiculous label, so they could line their pockets indefinately whilst the hapless motorist sits in 5 mile queues gulping down deisel smoke ....... 'le fleece' would be more appropriate i think, and i wish people had longer memories come election time....... pembury53
  • Score: 4

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