Couple “win” their baby girl back from social services after she was taken away for NINE months

Jack Barnes and Cheryl Rich with baby Misty

Jack Barnes and Cheryl Rich with baby Misty

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Thurrock Gazette: Matt Abbott Exclusive by , Chief Reporter

A COUPLE have been reunited with their baby after she was taken away from them at birth.

Social services accused the father of being a terrorist AND breached strict data protection rules.

Misty Barnes was just a month old when was taken from her mum Cheryl Rich and dad Jack Barnes.

In the traumatic year to follow, which eventually saw the parents win back their baby, Jack was wrongly accused of:

*being a terrorist who had knowledge of making bombs and had threatened to blow up buildings

*being a violent armed robber who had served eight years inside Belmarsh Prison

*pumping his dogs with steroids so they could fight But in addition to a bombardment of false accusations the council managed to mix Misty’s case up, putting the authority in breach of strict data protection rules.

The couple’s solicitors were sent paperwork regarding the wrong child and a Statement of Fact was submitted to court by the council with the wrong child, wrong sex and even the wrong council listed on it.

A clearly overwhelmed Cheryl, 26, said: “I was upset, confused and scared when they took Misty away.

“We went back to the flat and broke down. But it’s amazing to have her back in our lives now - it’s been so hard.”

Jack, 39, of Goldace, Grays, said: “We have had to stay strong through this.

“The council tried to break us.

“I’ve lost my fish and my dogs as a result, but we couldn’t let them win.”

Thurrock MP Jackie Doyle-Price, who was contacted by the couple in December 2012 has fought their corner ever since.

She said: “While the family are reunited now, nothing can replace the time they have lost. A major injustice has taken place here.

“Thurrock council owe this family a huge apology.

“Whilst there were reasons to be concerned for Misty's welfare, social workers treated Cheryl as a victim of domestic violence, which she was not.

“The council argue the court would not have approved the first care order unless the action was fair.

“However, the papers filed with the court by the council contained untruths which Jack and Cheryl could not challenge.”

The council refused to comment in detail on the case, but a spokesman said: “The family has been asked to provide a detailed written complaint, setting out all their issues so it can be investigated properly by a non-council, independent person.”

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9:01am Thu 9 Jan 14

C.E.R. says...

"I've lost my fish and dogs" !!! was that the only thing this guy was grieved about?
As sad as it is for the poor little girl to be taken away from her parents, the mix up was awful but there was an issue of safety with the social services which I hope doesn't get swept under the carpet and we hear that something serious has gone happened to the child - they should be still "watched".
"I've lost my fish and dogs" !!! was that the only thing this guy was grieved about? As sad as it is for the poor little girl to be taken away from her parents, the mix up was awful but there was an issue of safety with the social services which I hope doesn't get swept under the carpet and we hear that something serious has gone happened to the child - they should be still "watched". C.E.R.
  • Score: -6

11:22am Thu 9 Jan 14

garry99 says...

Some people really want to get a clue before posting their banal comments how parents must be watched by social services just because they get a report. I wonder if they have ever been at the sharp end of this treatment from spite of a neighbour or such. Maybe they should be reported and find out what it is like to be hounded to death.
Some people really want to get a clue before posting their banal comments how parents must be watched by social services just because they get a report. I wonder if they have ever been at the sharp end of this treatment from spite of a neighbour or such. Maybe they should be reported and find out what it is like to be hounded to death. garry99
  • Score: 18

12:51pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Joe Burns says...

garry99 wrote:
Some people really want to get a clue before posting their banal comments how parents must be watched by social services just because they get a report. I wonder if they have ever been at the sharp end of this treatment from spite of a neighbour or such. Maybe they should be reported and find out what it is like to be hounded to death.
This is either the person who made the malicious complaint or someone whose income depends on this corrupt and incompetent system.

The baby's Human and Civil Rights were abused as well as the parents and someone should pay with their jobs and their liberty. Maybe take their dogs and fish too and see how they like it.
[quote][p][bold]garry99[/bold] wrote: Some people really want to get a clue before posting their banal comments how parents must be watched by social services just because they get a report. I wonder if they have ever been at the sharp end of this treatment from spite of a neighbour or such. Maybe they should be reported and find out what it is like to be hounded to death.[/p][/quote]This is either the person who made the malicious complaint or someone whose income depends on this corrupt and incompetent system. The baby's Human and Civil Rights were abused as well as the parents and someone should pay with their jobs and their liberty. Maybe take their dogs and fish too and see how they like it. Joe Burns
  • Score: 7

1:31pm Thu 9 Jan 14

C.E.R. says...

The authorities are damned if they do and damned if they don't but I would rather them intervene and dismiss rather than miss another Baby P or Victoria Climbier case.
The authorities must have had cause for concern in the first place.
The authorities are damned if they do and damned if they don't but I would rather them intervene and dismiss rather than miss another Baby P or Victoria Climbier case. The authorities must have had cause for concern in the first place. C.E.R.
  • Score: 5

3:05pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Oldschool1969 says...

All people want to see is an authority being professional and accurate, not misdirecting reports and the court. As the law supports the professionals when they get it wrong which they did in some case an apology is not satisfactory. People who feel they as damned if they do and damned if they don't are completely wrong, like baby P and any other case by Social Services have let 1,000's of child down in the UK every year. So when it comes to children we can not put our trust in authorities and assume they are right, in all other jobs in life person have to be responsible for their actions so why not Social Services who hide behind the words professional and the power of the local authority. When I read an A Level law examine book I was amazed that it's well known that local illegal firms can be intimated by the authority, that point is very interesting and true. Thank God we live in a democracy, but who's checking on the professional network and hidden practices.
All people want to see is an authority being professional and accurate, not misdirecting reports and the court. As the law supports the professionals when they get it wrong which they did in some case an apology is not satisfactory. People who feel they as damned if they do and damned if they don't are completely wrong, like baby P and any other case by Social Services have let 1,000's of child down in the UK every year. So when it comes to children we can not put our trust in authorities and assume they are right, in all other jobs in life person have to be responsible for their actions so why not Social Services who hide behind the words professional and the power of the local authority. When I read an A Level law examine book I was amazed that it's well known that local illegal firms can be intimated by the authority, that point is very interesting and true. Thank God we live in a democracy, but who's checking on the professional network and hidden practices. Oldschool1969
  • Score: 1

3:22pm Thu 9 Jan 14

carrie198330 says...

the biggest problem is that these over powered liars create a case load for themselves with families where no social envolvement is needed and as a result the children that genuinely need their help are let down because social workers have targets to meet and its easier to pick on women that have been involved in domestic violence or single parents. They fabricate issues which infact arent there, they twist anything the parent says to suit them, they emotionaly abuse children by steeling them from their loving parents mean while the actually neglected abused children are left to die like baby p

The British population need their eyes opening to social workers abuse of power, bullying inocent parents and emotionally damaging children. Its all well and good those that have never had missfourtune to have these vile people show up and throw false accusations and fabricate stories that are fiction nothing more,sitting there denying this happens but IT DOES inocent families ripped apart by these sick twisted power hungry people.

There are thousands of children in care that do not need to be and the tax payers money funds this by paying £1700per child per week!!
David Cameron is alowing this to happen, he cuts benifits more and more to pay back the deffersite yet if these children where returned home where they belong the deffersite would be payed off a hell of a lot quicker and the poorest of society on benifits wouldnt be suffering now
the biggest problem is that these over powered liars create a case load for themselves with families where no social envolvement is needed and as a result the children that genuinely need their help are let down because social workers have targets to meet and its easier to pick on women that have been involved in domestic violence or single parents. They fabricate issues which infact arent there, they twist anything the parent says to suit them, they emotionaly abuse children by steeling them from their loving parents mean while the actually neglected abused children are left to die like baby p The British population need their eyes opening to social workers abuse of power, bullying inocent parents and emotionally damaging children. Its all well and good those that have never had missfourtune to have these vile people show up and throw false accusations and fabricate stories that are fiction nothing more,sitting there denying this happens but IT DOES inocent families ripped apart by these sick twisted power hungry people. There are thousands of children in care that do not need to be and the tax payers money funds this by paying £1700per child per week!! David Cameron is alowing this to happen, he cuts benifits more and more to pay back the deffersite yet if these children where returned home where they belong the deffersite would be payed off a hell of a lot quicker and the poorest of society on benifits wouldnt be suffering now carrie198330
  • Score: 5

4:17pm Thu 9 Jan 14

carrie198330 says...

C.E.R. wrote:
The authorities are damned if they do and damned if they don't but I would rather them intervene and dismiss rather than miss another Baby P or Victoria Climbier case.
The authorities must have had cause for concern in the first place.
the thing is they dont intervene then hand back the children !!! they take inocent children where there is no cause for concern thats what is trying to be put accross the reason baby p and victoria climber cases ended in death is because these social workers are too busy sticking there nose in where there is absolutly no need to do so what so ever making themselves a unnescisary case load which as a result leaves the baby p's and victoria climber's to die.

wake up ffs these people ruin inocent lives for money and targets. in cambridgeshire there are 419 children in care of which a good 50% should have been returned home but they havent and over half of these children are not only ripped away from their loving family but also dumped outside of cambridgeshire in strange place with strange people with no family close by. how is this doing the right thing?

most children that are taken into care end up in and out of trouble throughout life how is this good for society? how is having unregistered social workers stealing children good for society. social care should be abolished
[quote][p][bold]C.E.R.[/bold] wrote: The authorities are damned if they do and damned if they don't but I would rather them intervene and dismiss rather than miss another Baby P or Victoria Climbier case. The authorities must have had cause for concern in the first place.[/p][/quote]the thing is they dont intervene then hand back the children !!! they take inocent children where there is no cause for concern thats what is trying to be put accross the reason baby p and victoria climber cases ended in death is because these social workers are too busy sticking there nose in where there is absolutly no need to do so what so ever making themselves a unnescisary case load which as a result leaves the baby p's and victoria climber's to die. wake up ffs these people ruin inocent lives for money and targets. in cambridgeshire there are 419 children in care of which a good 50% should have been returned home but they havent and over half of these children are not only ripped away from their loving family but also dumped outside of cambridgeshire in strange place with strange people with no family close by. how is this doing the right thing? most children that are taken into care end up in and out of trouble throughout life how is this good for society? how is having unregistered social workers stealing children good for society. social care should be abolished carrie198330
  • Score: 7

6:11pm Thu 9 Jan 14

anappealtoreason says...

I am not a social worker or personally involved with a social worker. My family has been involved in fostering young children taken into care though, so I have first hand experience of the goods and ills of social care. As with all systems it has pros and cons.

As with all reporting in the media of child social care cases, the reporting is very often one sided, factually incorrect and sensationalist as demonstrated by the completely incorrect reporting of caesarean case by the press.

That's fact check this reporting and some of the comments:

1. Social workers do not remove children directly. The family courts do or the police can under an Emergency Protection Order. Social Workers make a recommendation and a judge or magistrate has the responsibility of weighing the evidence up.
2. Domestic Abuse is one of the biggest indicators in child homicide. The focus of Social workers on this issue, is natural given their legal duty is the welfare of the child.
3. Families currently receive legal aid in the Family Courts, to challenge what is being stated. Court can also seek independent experts with no affiliation to the council to check the accuracy and validity of the social work assessments.
4. It is a nonsense that social workers have targets to remove children. This makes no sense given the provisions of the children act 1989, and the economic costs of taking children into care.

There are troubling issues rightly raised by this incident, that need looking into but for commenters on here to castigate all social services cases is not fair. All professions have good and bad practice and as humans they can make mistakes. Moreover, failings in individual cases does not mean a whole profession should be abolished. For example, I wouldn't state that the entire medical profession needs to abolished because of failings at Basildon Hospital.

Before making a judgement about all social workers think about the context of their work environment. They have massive case loads, far too high to do their job to the best of their ability. They work in system where the most effective interventions in keeping families together are being cut or not funded in the first place. They very often face devious abusers, who will do anything to mislead them. Just look at Baby P's mum smearing his cheeks in chocolate to his marks on his face or Daniel Pelka's mother convincing Doctors that Daniel had an eating disorder.

Social workers have one of the toughest jobs in Britain where they have to make complex emotive judgements very quickly which either way could have horrifying consequences. Either a child death or a child unfairly removed from a family.

Just remember that largely due to social services child homicide rates by family members has dropped by nearly 30% in the last 30 years. There is improvement to be made, but social workers do make our community a better place.
I am not a social worker or personally involved with a social worker. My family has been involved in fostering young children taken into care though, so I have first hand experience of the goods and ills of social care. As with all systems it has pros and cons. As with all reporting in the media of child social care cases, the reporting is very often one sided, factually incorrect and sensationalist as demonstrated by the completely incorrect reporting of caesarean case by the press. That's fact check this reporting and some of the comments: 1. Social workers do not remove children directly. The family courts do or the police can under an Emergency Protection Order. Social Workers make a recommendation and a judge or magistrate has the responsibility of weighing the evidence up. 2. Domestic Abuse is one of the biggest indicators in child homicide. The focus of Social workers on this issue, is natural given their legal duty is the welfare of the child. 3. Families currently receive legal aid in the Family Courts, to challenge what is being stated. Court can also seek independent experts with no affiliation to the council to check the accuracy and validity of the social work assessments. 4. It is a nonsense that social workers have targets to remove children. This makes no sense given the provisions of the children act 1989, and the economic costs of taking children into care. There are troubling issues rightly raised by this incident, that need looking into but for commenters on here to castigate all social services cases is not fair. All professions have good and bad practice and as humans they can make mistakes. Moreover, failings in individual cases does not mean a whole profession should be abolished. For example, I wouldn't state that the entire medical profession needs to abolished because of failings at Basildon Hospital. Before making a judgement about all social workers think about the context of their work environment. They have massive case loads, far too high to do their job to the best of their ability. They work in system where the most effective interventions in keeping families together are being cut or not funded in the first place. They very often face devious abusers, who will do anything to mislead them. Just look at Baby P's mum smearing his cheeks in chocolate to his marks on his face or Daniel Pelka's mother convincing Doctors that Daniel had an eating disorder. Social workers have one of the toughest jobs in Britain where they have to make complex emotive judgements very quickly which either way could have horrifying consequences. Either a child death or a child unfairly removed from a family. Just remember that largely due to social services child homicide rates by family members has dropped by nearly 30% in the last 30 years. There is improvement to be made, but social workers do make our community a better place. anappealtoreason
  • Score: 1

5:59am Fri 10 Jan 14

carrie198330 says...

anappealtoreason wrote:
I am not a social worker or personally involved with a social worker. My family has been involved in fostering young children taken into care though, so I have first hand experience of the goods and ills of social care. As with all systems it has pros and cons.

As with all reporting in the media of child social care cases, the reporting is very often one sided, factually incorrect and sensationalist as demonstrated by the completely incorrect reporting of caesarean case by the press.

That's fact check this reporting and some of the comments:

1. Social workers do not remove children directly. The family courts do or the police can under an Emergency Protection Order. Social Workers make a recommendation and a judge or magistrate has the responsibility of weighing the evidence up.
2. Domestic Abuse is one of the biggest indicators in child homicide. The focus of Social workers on this issue, is natural given their legal duty is the welfare of the child.
3. Families currently receive legal aid in the Family Courts, to challenge what is being stated. Court can also seek independent experts with no affiliation to the council to check the accuracy and validity of the social work assessments.
4. It is a nonsense that social workers have targets to remove children. This makes no sense given the provisions of the children act 1989, and the economic costs of taking children into care.

There are troubling issues rightly raised by this incident, that need looking into but for commenters on here to castigate all social services cases is not fair. All professions have good and bad practice and as humans they can make mistakes. Moreover, failings in individual cases does not mean a whole profession should be abolished. For example, I wouldn't state that the entire medical profession needs to abolished because of failings at Basildon Hospital.

Before making a judgement about all social workers think about the context of their work environment. They have massive case loads, far too high to do their job to the best of their ability. They work in system where the most effective interventions in keeping families together are being cut or not funded in the first place. They very often face devious abusers, who will do anything to mislead them. Just look at Baby P's mum smearing his cheeks in chocolate to his marks on his face or Daniel Pelka's mother convincing Doctors that Daniel had an eating disorder.

Social workers have one of the toughest jobs in Britain where they have to make complex emotive judgements very quickly which either way could have horrifying consequences. Either a child death or a child unfairly removed from a family.

Just remember that largely due to social services child homicide rates by family members has dropped by nearly 30% in the last 30 years. There is improvement to be made, but social workers do make our community a better place.
Social workers have such heavy case loads because they make it so. social workers lie and fabricate stories to steel children and they do it any way possible. they do have targets to meet there are many ex social workers that have spoken out about it !!
social workers are illegally taking children from there families with out the correct documentations. i know this first hand as social care stole my children without emergancy care order or me signing them over!! i can give lists of social workers working illegally by not being registered by the h.c.p.c which legally they have to be registered to practice. i can provide evidence of the fact that social care chose what proffessionals do the assessments and right utter **** in said reports. i have proof of this as they used a "proffessional" that is not qualified and has bipolar that shes admitted she does not take medication for it and she has been sectioned so they get the report they want thats full of lies to take children into care!
social workers make their own lives misdreble and tbh wouldnt know the truth even if it jumped up and bit them. children that actualy need socials help dont get the help they need because social workers know that children stolen from a loving home because they are more adoptable than a child with lots of issues from homes and parents that couldnt give a **** about their kids. how is this ethic?
its about time the british population sat up and acept that this curruption is a daily accurrancrenc wake up this is happening why are the parents campaigning at David Camerons house doing hunger stricks because their are parents and children being abused by the state by steeling these inocent parents children which is causing irriversable damge to both parent and child.
social workers have far to much power and cause inocent families to suffer living hell because they have tarets to meet nieve people can keep saying this is not true but sorry to burst that deluded bubble BUT THIS IS HAPPENING.
social workers cause so much harm and with the way they go about things their is no place in society for these vile parrasite social workers.
[quote][p][bold]anappealtoreason[/bold] wrote: I am not a social worker or personally involved with a social worker. My family has been involved in fostering young children taken into care though, so I have first hand experience of the goods and ills of social care. As with all systems it has pros and cons. As with all reporting in the media of child social care cases, the reporting is very often one sided, factually incorrect and sensationalist as demonstrated by the completely incorrect reporting of caesarean case by the press. That's fact check this reporting and some of the comments: 1. Social workers do not remove children directly. The family courts do or the police can under an Emergency Protection Order. Social Workers make a recommendation and a judge or magistrate has the responsibility of weighing the evidence up. 2. Domestic Abuse is one of the biggest indicators in child homicide. The focus of Social workers on this issue, is natural given their legal duty is the welfare of the child. 3. Families currently receive legal aid in the Family Courts, to challenge what is being stated. Court can also seek independent experts with no affiliation to the council to check the accuracy and validity of the social work assessments. 4. It is a nonsense that social workers have targets to remove children. This makes no sense given the provisions of the children act 1989, and the economic costs of taking children into care. There are troubling issues rightly raised by this incident, that need looking into but for commenters on here to castigate all social services cases is not fair. All professions have good and bad practice and as humans they can make mistakes. Moreover, failings in individual cases does not mean a whole profession should be abolished. For example, I wouldn't state that the entire medical profession needs to abolished because of failings at Basildon Hospital. Before making a judgement about all social workers think about the context of their work environment. They have massive case loads, far too high to do their job to the best of their ability. They work in system where the most effective interventions in keeping families together are being cut or not funded in the first place. They very often face devious abusers, who will do anything to mislead them. Just look at Baby P's mum smearing his cheeks in chocolate to his marks on his face or Daniel Pelka's mother convincing Doctors that Daniel had an eating disorder. Social workers have one of the toughest jobs in Britain where they have to make complex emotive judgements very quickly which either way could have horrifying consequences. Either a child death or a child unfairly removed from a family. Just remember that largely due to social services child homicide rates by family members has dropped by nearly 30% in the last 30 years. There is improvement to be made, but social workers do make our community a better place.[/p][/quote]Social workers have such heavy case loads because they make it so. social workers lie and fabricate stories to steel children and they do it any way possible. they do have targets to meet there are many ex social workers that have spoken out about it !! social workers are illegally taking children from there families with out the correct documentations. i know this first hand as social care stole my children without emergancy care order or me signing them over!! i can give lists of social workers working illegally by not being registered by the h.c.p.c which legally they have to be registered to practice. i can provide evidence of the fact that social care chose what proffessionals do the assessments and right utter **** in said reports. i have proof of this as they used a "proffessional" that is not qualified and has bipolar that shes admitted she does not take medication for it and she has been sectioned so they get the report they want thats full of lies to take children into care! social workers make their own lives misdreble and tbh wouldnt know the truth even if it jumped up and bit them. children that actualy need socials help dont get the help they need because social workers know that children stolen from a loving home because they are more adoptable than a child with lots of issues from homes and parents that couldnt give a **** about their kids. how is this ethic? its about time the british population sat up and acept that this curruption is a daily accurrancrenc wake up this is happening why are the parents campaigning at David Camerons house doing hunger stricks because their are parents and children being abused by the state by steeling these inocent parents children which is causing irriversable damge to both parent and child. social workers have far to much power and cause inocent families to suffer living hell because they have tarets to meet nieve people can keep saying this is not true but sorry to burst that deluded bubble BUT THIS IS HAPPENING. social workers cause so much harm and with the way they go about things their is no place in society for these vile parrasite social workers. carrie198330
  • Score: 0

6:09am Fri 10 Jan 14

carrie198330 says...

social workers are not able to know whats in the future for families yet they seem to steel a lot of children because 'risk of futre harm' and 'risk of future abuse' how can they possibly say this do they have a crystal ball ?
if people actually want to know whats actually goes on there are many faceboom support groups for parents who have had there children stolen by social and name and shame sites with horrific stories of what social have done to inocent families.
social workers are not able to know whats in the future for families yet they seem to steel a lot of children because 'risk of futre harm' and 'risk of future abuse' how can they possibly say this do they have a crystal ball ? if people actually want to know whats actually goes on there are many faceboom support groups for parents who have had there children stolen by social and name and shame sites with horrific stories of what social have done to inocent families. carrie198330
  • Score: 2

8:03am Fri 10 Jan 14

ebagumtrebor says...

If the social workers in question have got it wrong, the consequences in terms of what happens to their careers should be left with their employer. I wouldn't want to employ a person whose judgement may be seriously flawed as it may well lead to serious financial consequences top the employer.

If they have fabricated evidence against these people, it should be dealt with in the courts and in a case as serious as this, jail terms should be involved.

As the MP is involved, she should ask that a full independent investigation be held by a person or persons agreed on by both sides of the argument.

Personally, it would appear that the social services in this case weren't justified in taking the child away. I would be seeking legal advice immediately with a view to suing their ar**s.
If the social workers in question have got it wrong, the consequences in terms of what happens to their careers should be left with their employer. I wouldn't want to employ a person whose judgement may be seriously flawed as it may well lead to serious financial consequences top the employer. If they have fabricated evidence against these people, it should be dealt with in the courts and in a case as serious as this, jail terms should be involved. As the MP is involved, she should ask that a full independent investigation be held by a person or persons agreed on by both sides of the argument. Personally, it would appear that the social services in this case weren't justified in taking the child away. I would be seeking legal advice immediately with a view to suing their ar**s. ebagumtrebor
  • Score: 2

1:20pm Fri 10 Jan 14

anappealtoreason says...

carrie198330 wrote:
anappealtoreason wrote:
I am not a social worker or personally involved with a social worker. My family has been involved in fostering young children taken into care though, so I have first hand experience of the goods and ills of social care. As with all systems it has pros and cons.

As with all reporting in the media of child social care cases, the reporting is very often one sided, factually incorrect and sensationalist as demonstrated by the completely incorrect reporting of caesarean case by the press.

That's fact check this reporting and some of the comments:

1. Social workers do not remove children directly. The family courts do or the police can under an Emergency Protection Order. Social Workers make a recommendation and a judge or magistrate has the responsibility of weighing the evidence up.
2. Domestic Abuse is one of the biggest indicators in child homicide. The focus of Social workers on this issue, is natural given their legal duty is the welfare of the child.
3. Families currently receive legal aid in the Family Courts, to challenge what is being stated. Court can also seek independent experts with no affiliation to the council to check the accuracy and validity of the social work assessments.
4. It is a nonsense that social workers have targets to remove children. This makes no sense given the provisions of the children act 1989, and the economic costs of taking children into care.

There are troubling issues rightly raised by this incident, that need looking into but for commenters on here to castigate all social services cases is not fair. All professions have good and bad practice and as humans they can make mistakes. Moreover, failings in individual cases does not mean a whole profession should be abolished. For example, I wouldn't state that the entire medical profession needs to abolished because of failings at Basildon Hospital.

Before making a judgement about all social workers think about the context of their work environment. They have massive case loads, far too high to do their job to the best of their ability. They work in system where the most effective interventions in keeping families together are being cut or not funded in the first place. They very often face devious abusers, who will do anything to mislead them. Just look at Baby P's mum smearing his cheeks in chocolate to his marks on his face or Daniel Pelka's mother convincing Doctors that Daniel had an eating disorder.

Social workers have one of the toughest jobs in Britain where they have to make complex emotive judgements very quickly which either way could have horrifying consequences. Either a child death or a child unfairly removed from a family.

Just remember that largely due to social services child homicide rates by family members has dropped by nearly 30% in the last 30 years. There is improvement to be made, but social workers do make our community a better place.
Social workers have such heavy case loads because they make it so. social workers lie and fabricate stories to steel children and they do it any way possible. they do have targets to meet there are many ex social workers that have spoken out about it !!
social workers are illegally taking children from there families with out the correct documentations. i know this first hand as social care stole my children without emergancy care order or me signing them over!! i can give lists of social workers working illegally by not being registered by the h.c.p.c which legally they have to be registered to practice. i can provide evidence of the fact that social care chose what proffessionals do the assessments and right utter **** in said reports. i have proof of this as they used a "proffessional" that is not qualified and has bipolar that shes admitted she does not take medication for it and she has been sectioned so they get the report they want thats full of lies to take children into care!
social workers make their own lives misdreble and tbh wouldnt know the truth even if it jumped up and bit them. children that actualy need socials help dont get the help they need because social workers know that children stolen from a loving home because they are more adoptable than a child with lots of issues from homes and parents that couldnt give a **** about their kids. how is this ethic?
its about time the british population sat up and acept that this curruption is a daily accurrancrenc wake up this is happening why are the parents campaigning at David Camerons house doing hunger stricks because their are parents and children being abused by the state by steeling these inocent parents children which is causing irriversable damge to both parent and child.
social workers have far to much power and cause inocent families to suffer living hell because they have tarets to meet nieve people can keep saying this is not true but sorry to burst that deluded bubble BUT THIS IS HAPPENING.
social workers cause so much harm and with the way they go about things their is no place in society for these vile parrasite social workers.
Social workers do not generate their own caseload, referrals for child protection concerns are received from members of the public, health professionals, the police, teachers in the main. Once a referral is received Chidrens services have a legal duty to respond to this allegation. Social workers do indeed have targets, that are related to statutory timescales set out governmental guidance to respond to allegations and complete assessments. They do not have any targets for taking certain amount of children into care, this would very easy to challenge in the courts and is a ridiculous proposition given that it makes no financial sense for a local authority to burden itself with such high costs.

If they a someone is claiming to be a social worker and they are not registred with the HCPC, this is against the law. Social Worker is a legally protected title and this should not happen. Report these people to the police and the HCPC and they will be investigated. Children services does employ non-qualified workers but they are not allowed to use the title social worker. The reason local authorities tend to do this is because they are making budget cuts and unqualified workers are cheaper.

I am sorry to hear about your children being removed, and if an EPO, section 20 agreement or court order, then I advise you seek legal advice urgently.

The risk of significant harm is weighed up a judge, who decides if it meets a criteria set in case law. It is a highly difficult judgement, but the very reason children are often removed is to prevent abuse, or neglect that could cause irreparable damage lasting a lifetime. The judge makes this decision based on the balance of probabilities, it is not perfect, but it does save children's lives.
[quote][p][bold]carrie198330[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]anappealtoreason[/bold] wrote: I am not a social worker or personally involved with a social worker. My family has been involved in fostering young children taken into care though, so I have first hand experience of the goods and ills of social care. As with all systems it has pros and cons. As with all reporting in the media of child social care cases, the reporting is very often one sided, factually incorrect and sensationalist as demonstrated by the completely incorrect reporting of caesarean case by the press. That's fact check this reporting and some of the comments: 1. Social workers do not remove children directly. The family courts do or the police can under an Emergency Protection Order. Social Workers make a recommendation and a judge or magistrate has the responsibility of weighing the evidence up. 2. Domestic Abuse is one of the biggest indicators in child homicide. The focus of Social workers on this issue, is natural given their legal duty is the welfare of the child. 3. Families currently receive legal aid in the Family Courts, to challenge what is being stated. Court can also seek independent experts with no affiliation to the council to check the accuracy and validity of the social work assessments. 4. It is a nonsense that social workers have targets to remove children. This makes no sense given the provisions of the children act 1989, and the economic costs of taking children into care. There are troubling issues rightly raised by this incident, that need looking into but for commenters on here to castigate all social services cases is not fair. All professions have good and bad practice and as humans they can make mistakes. Moreover, failings in individual cases does not mean a whole profession should be abolished. For example, I wouldn't state that the entire medical profession needs to abolished because of failings at Basildon Hospital. Before making a judgement about all social workers think about the context of their work environment. They have massive case loads, far too high to do their job to the best of their ability. They work in system where the most effective interventions in keeping families together are being cut or not funded in the first place. They very often face devious abusers, who will do anything to mislead them. Just look at Baby P's mum smearing his cheeks in chocolate to his marks on his face or Daniel Pelka's mother convincing Doctors that Daniel had an eating disorder. Social workers have one of the toughest jobs in Britain where they have to make complex emotive judgements very quickly which either way could have horrifying consequences. Either a child death or a child unfairly removed from a family. Just remember that largely due to social services child homicide rates by family members has dropped by nearly 30% in the last 30 years. There is improvement to be made, but social workers do make our community a better place.[/p][/quote]Social workers have such heavy case loads because they make it so. social workers lie and fabricate stories to steel children and they do it any way possible. they do have targets to meet there are many ex social workers that have spoken out about it !! social workers are illegally taking children from there families with out the correct documentations. i know this first hand as social care stole my children without emergancy care order or me signing them over!! i can give lists of social workers working illegally by not being registered by the h.c.p.c which legally they have to be registered to practice. i can provide evidence of the fact that social care chose what proffessionals do the assessments and right utter **** in said reports. i have proof of this as they used a "proffessional" that is not qualified and has bipolar that shes admitted she does not take medication for it and she has been sectioned so they get the report they want thats full of lies to take children into care! social workers make their own lives misdreble and tbh wouldnt know the truth even if it jumped up and bit them. children that actualy need socials help dont get the help they need because social workers know that children stolen from a loving home because they are more adoptable than a child with lots of issues from homes and parents that couldnt give a **** about their kids. how is this ethic? its about time the british population sat up and acept that this curruption is a daily accurrancrenc wake up this is happening why are the parents campaigning at David Camerons house doing hunger stricks because their are parents and children being abused by the state by steeling these inocent parents children which is causing irriversable damge to both parent and child. social workers have far to much power and cause inocent families to suffer living hell because they have tarets to meet nieve people can keep saying this is not true but sorry to burst that deluded bubble BUT THIS IS HAPPENING. social workers cause so much harm and with the way they go about things their is no place in society for these vile parrasite social workers.[/p][/quote]Social workers do not generate their own caseload, referrals for child protection concerns are received from members of the public, health professionals, the police, teachers in the main. Once a referral is received Chidrens services have a legal duty to respond to this allegation. Social workers do indeed have targets, that are related to statutory timescales set out governmental guidance to respond to allegations and complete assessments. They do not have any targets for taking certain amount of children into care, this would very easy to challenge in the courts and is a ridiculous proposition given that it makes no financial sense for a local authority to burden itself with such high costs. If they a someone is claiming to be a social worker and they are not registred with the HCPC, this is against the law. Social Worker is a legally protected title and this should not happen. Report these people to the police and the HCPC and they will be investigated. Children services does employ non-qualified workers but they are not allowed to use the title social worker. The reason local authorities tend to do this is because they are making budget cuts and unqualified workers are cheaper. I am sorry to hear about your children being removed, and if an EPO, section 20 agreement or court order, then I advise you seek legal advice urgently. The risk of significant harm is weighed up a judge, who decides if it meets a criteria set in case law. It is a highly difficult judgement, but the very reason children are often removed is to prevent abuse, or neglect that could cause irreparable damage lasting a lifetime. The judge makes this decision based on the balance of probabilities, it is not perfect, but it does save children's lives. anappealtoreason
  • Score: 1

3:37pm Fri 10 Jan 14

The Hog says...

Once again only the bad things about social services are splashed all over the paper. To many "what ifs" involved for any member of the public(me included) to make a fair comment. Only thing that worries me a touch, how come when its good news our MP is the first one in front of the camera. When its bad news,our MP is first in line to distance herself from a council she represents in parliament..How Odd... JDP your no good for Thurrock.Go back to Sheffield, where your heart is..
Once again only the bad things about social services are splashed all over the paper. To many "what ifs" involved for any member of the public(me included) to make a fair comment. Only thing that worries me a touch, how come when its good news our MP is the first one in front of the camera. When its bad news,our MP is first in line to distance herself from a council she represents in parliament..How Odd... JDP your no good for Thurrock.Go back to Sheffield, where your heart is.. The Hog
  • Score: 4

4:09pm Fri 10 Jan 14

DavidGaleUK says...

"The council's submissions to the court contained un-challengeable untruths?"

That will be perjury then. When can we expect the social workers to be arrested and charged?
"The council's submissions to the court contained un-challengeable untruths?" That will be perjury then. When can we expect the social workers to be arrested and charged? DavidGaleUK
  • Score: 8

4:33pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Essex_Kelz83 says...

Social services in thurrock are corrupt and liars!! Half of them dont have kids and take kids away for no reason!! Thurrock council social services can get away with this cos they do their complaints in house and then your turned around to be a liar!!
Social services in thurrock are corrupt and liars!! Half of them dont have kids and take kids away for no reason!! Thurrock council social services can get away with this cos they do their complaints in house and then your turned around to be a liar!! Essex_Kelz83
  • Score: 3

7:03pm Fri 10 Jan 14

carrie198330 says...

social workers lie all the time and there are plenty of examples of this all over the internet and facebook. i have read an ex social workers blog i supose you would have to class it as and the reason this poticula person is ex social work is because of the currupt system and the targets the more children in a local authorities care mean a higher budget awarded so yes they do have targets of how many children they take into care.
not only have i researched the way in which social work i have also experenced there currupt ways personally. i was promised the world by social, my 4 children where taken oct 2009 and i was promised they would return by that christmas 4yrs 3months have passed and my children are still not returned throught the case social have lied and twisted everything said by myself they also pushed for and appointed a pysciatrist who i have since found out has no qualifications who is also a bipolar sufferer that has openly admitted she does not take medication for it and for those that dont know bipolar is a chemical inbalance that has to be medicated to make the patient mentally stable and the fact this so called proffessional is dangerious and unpredictable. someone with unstable bipolar can not make any form of judgement or diagnosis about someone elses mental health which her sole report was the only thing that the care orders where made based on. not only that this proffessional goes by a second name in the states and has also been sectioned!! this info was not difficult to find and social knew all this and forced me and my children to be seen by her thus social putting both myself (pregnant at the time) and my children at risk.
the solicitor acting for local authority throughout the case is not registered with the law society. they have tried and failed over 3yr period to take my youngest child as his father is not the abusive ex the eldest four have the dna of which again proves there are no questions over my parenting ability yet they still wont give me my children back lie and cheat and ignore judges recomendations.
social workers are dangerious people that you really do not want to have anythjng to do with.

stuart barton used to work for london council and he was a pedo and child abuser that worked as a social worker that is ment to PROTECT CHILDREN. he also had the local authority pay for him to do drug rehab then got made a lecturer at suffolk uni as the lecturer for the safeguarding children section of the social work course. people really need to take the rose tinted glasses off and realise whats going on up and down the country !!!!
social workers lie all the time and there are plenty of examples of this all over the internet and facebook. i have read an ex social workers blog i supose you would have to class it as and the reason this poticula person is ex social work is because of the currupt system and the targets the more children in a local authorities care mean a higher budget awarded so yes they do have targets of how many children they take into care. not only have i researched the way in which social work i have also experenced there currupt ways personally. i was promised the world by social, my 4 children where taken oct 2009 and i was promised they would return by that christmas 4yrs 3months have passed and my children are still not returned throught the case social have lied and twisted everything said by myself they also pushed for and appointed a pysciatrist who i have since found out has no qualifications who is also a bipolar sufferer that has openly admitted she does not take medication for it and for those that dont know bipolar is a chemical inbalance that has to be medicated to make the patient mentally stable and the fact this so called proffessional is dangerious and unpredictable. someone with unstable bipolar can not make any form of judgement or diagnosis about someone elses mental health which her sole report was the only thing that the care orders where made based on. not only that this proffessional goes by a second name in the states and has also been sectioned!! this info was not difficult to find and social knew all this and forced me and my children to be seen by her thus social putting both myself (pregnant at the time) and my children at risk. the solicitor acting for local authority throughout the case is not registered with the law society. they have tried and failed over 3yr period to take my youngest child as his father is not the abusive ex the eldest four have the dna of which again proves there are no questions over my parenting ability yet they still wont give me my children back lie and cheat and ignore judges recomendations. social workers are dangerious people that you really do not want to have anythjng to do with. stuart barton used to work for london council and he was a pedo and child abuser that worked as a social worker that is ment to PROTECT CHILDREN. he also had the local authority pay for him to do drug rehab then got made a lecturer at suffolk uni as the lecturer for the safeguarding children section of the social work course. people really need to take the rose tinted glasses off and realise whats going on up and down the country !!!! carrie198330
  • Score: 3

8:06pm Sat 11 Jan 14

Kelz83 says...

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https://www.whatdoth eyknow.com/request/i nappropriate_faceboo k_comments check out this artical on thurrock social worker Kelz83
  • Score: -1

5:16pm Mon 13 Jan 14

loulougirl says...

This case stinks of brivery.......and corruption.
it seems as if the prospective adoptive family, the ones who wanted to adopt the girl had brived social services, offering lots of money, "if only they get them the girl",
and I thought stealing children from parents to give them in adoption to rich families only happened in third world countries..........! we have it here!

This is why I would NEVER, never, adopt in Britain a british child. I can see now why people adopt abroad: orphans, children with no parents.
I would do the same. At least in other countries children are orphans or have been really abadoned,
I would never forgive myself if i adopted a child like this one causing such pain to the mother,
This case stinks of brivery.......and corruption. it seems as if the prospective adoptive family, the ones who wanted to adopt the girl had brived social services, offering lots of money, "if only they get them the girl", and I thought stealing children from parents to give them in adoption to rich families only happened in third world countries..........! we have it here! This is why I would NEVER, never, adopt in Britain a british child. I can see now why people adopt abroad: orphans, children with no parents. I would do the same. At least in other countries children are orphans or have been really abadoned, I would never forgive myself if i adopted a child like this one causing such pain to the mother, loulougirl
  • Score: 0

5:20pm Mon 13 Jan 14

loulougirl says...

Prospective adoptive parents should have some consciousnes about where their children come from............I don't think is ethical to adopt a child who has been removed from the mother like this.
Prospective adoptive parents should have some consciousnes about where their children come from............I don't think is ethical to adopt a child who has been removed from the mother like this. loulougirl
  • Score: 1

2:45pm Thu 16 Jan 14

amaranth1061 says...

I know this family, what a really nice guy, trained me in martial arts I know he has control!...
I know this family, what a really nice guy, trained me in martial arts I know he has control!... amaranth1061
  • Score: 3

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