Council plans for Mardyke solution after more floods endanger horses

Thurrock Gazette: Campaigners say the horses aren't safe on the flood plain Campaigners say the horses aren't safe on the flood plain

CAMPAIGNERS have lashed out at Thurrock Council for failing to help more than 40 horses left grazing on flood-hit land.

Thurrock Council has told the owner to move the horses from the land it owns in the Mardyke Valley from Davy Down to Ship Lane.

The horses have been left on the land, a flood plain, but conditions have got worse with recent bad weather.

Ssince the start of last week, flooding at the site alongside the M25 and A13 has affected more than 40 horses.

Animal groups and councillors have called on Thurrock Council to take decisive action.

Sue Allery, chairman of the Essex Horse and Pony Protection Society, said the charity had received more than 60 complaints over the Christmas period from people concerned for the welfare of the horses at the Mardyke.

“This is a flood plain and totally unsuitable for grazing animals in the winter months.

“The situation is dire and needs to be resolved before this suffering goes on any more. The horses on the land are in danger of drowning as the water levels rise.”

Sue Burton, manager at the Remus Horse Sanctuary, in Ingatestone, said: “Thurrock Council has responsibilities and they are choosing to turn a blind eye and drag their feet on this issue. It has to stop now and they have to accept responsibility or be held responsible for their lack of action for these horses.”

Lynn Carr, Ockendon ward councillor, said: “In the short-term it solves the problem but not in the long-term. It is a flood plain and, certainly in the winter, it is not suitable for horses.”

The council, RSPCA and police have not felt the need to remove the horses from the site, to “alleviate distress”, up to now.

A council spokesman said: “In the longer term the council acknowledges the land needs to be more intensively managed than its resources allow.

“An environmental organisation would be better placed to do this and the council is moving ahead with plans to change the arrangements in the New Year - although it is likely to take several months to complete.”

Thurrock Council is looking to appoint an environmental organisation to manage its land at the Mardyke Meadows after a deluge of rain over the Christmas period turned the land into a swamp.

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10:03am Sat 4 Jan 14

Jack222 says...

Given the RSPCA don't see a problem then perhaps people are overreacting...
Given the RSPCA don't see a problem then perhaps people are overreacting... Jack222
  • Score: -13

4:43pm Sat 4 Jan 14

TOBI13 says...

The horses should have been moved a long time ago!!!!
The area is not suitable in winter for horses, who has been overseeing the situation who has been monitoring what has been going on there? TBC YOU CAN NO LONGER IGNORE THE MANY RESIDENTS THAT DISLIKE WHAT THEY SEE.
The horses should have been moved a long time ago!!!! The area is not suitable in winter for horses, who has been overseeing the situation who has been monitoring what has been going on there? TBC YOU CAN NO LONGER IGNORE THE MANY RESIDENTS THAT DISLIKE WHAT THEY SEE. TOBI13
  • Score: 11

6:34pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Tokka1 says...

Jack222 = complete nob head who really has no idea!
Jack222 = complete nob head who really has no idea! Tokka1
  • Score: 5

7:04pm Sat 4 Jan 14

TOBI13 says...

tokka1
i agree with you anyone who knows their onions knows this is a serious issue and TBC can address this issue immediately does jack222 have any compassion? has jack222 seen the conditions the horses are living in and the damage to the land?
tokka1 i agree with you anyone who knows their onions knows this is a serious issue and TBC can address this issue immediately does jack222 have any compassion? has jack222 seen the conditions the horses are living in and the damage to the land? TOBI13
  • Score: 13

7:42pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Actresponsibly says...

Leave the RSPCA and Police out of it Thurrock Council. Your mess, you sort it. The only people who think there is nothing wrong with keeping horses on a flood plain in the winter are either (1) totally out of their tree or (2) own the horses or are related to someone who owns them! Those poor three down by the bridle path who are covered in burrs for starters. Simple out and out neglect. If you can't afford to keep your horse(s) properly, then the moral of the story is don't have them in the first place. I bet Jack222 and family are as snug as bugs in rugs tonight! Unlike those poor horses.
Leave the RSPCA and Police out of it Thurrock Council. Your mess, you sort it. The only people who think there is nothing wrong with keeping horses on a flood plain in the winter are either (1) totally out of their tree or (2) own the horses or are related to someone who owns them! Those poor three down by the bridle path who are covered in burrs for starters. Simple out and out neglect. If you can't afford to keep your horse(s) properly, then the moral of the story is don't have them in the first place. I bet Jack222 and family are as snug as bugs in rugs tonight! Unlike those poor horses. Actresponsibly
  • Score: 13

7:59pm Sat 4 Jan 14

benny16 says...

Jack222 are you for real??? How would you like to live in dirty water up to your knees only be fed rotten food and be helpless while you watch your friends and family drown in front of you? Surely you are one of the horse owners as who else would have such an inhumane opinion? Owning an animal of any kind is a privilege and if people are not prepared to treat them with the respect they deserve then they should not have them. Horses in particular are very trusting honest animals and to see them mistreated in the way I have when I have drove past them makes me feel sick. I am so relieved that these poor ponies are no longer living in misery, can you imagine how depressed they must have been? I used to have my horse stabled in Well Lane North Stifford until one year the mardyke burst its banks and flooded they stable yard and guess what I did???? I moved my horse to a different yard with no history of flooding..........it doesn't take much to work out right from wrong.
Jack222 are you for real??? How would you like to live in dirty water up to your knees only be fed rotten food and be helpless while you watch your friends and family drown in front of you? Surely you are one of the horse owners as who else would have such an inhumane opinion? Owning an animal of any kind is a privilege and if people are not prepared to treat them with the respect they deserve then they should not have them. Horses in particular are very trusting honest animals and to see them mistreated in the way I have when I have drove past them makes me feel sick. I am so relieved that these poor ponies are no longer living in misery, can you imagine how depressed they must have been? I used to have my horse stabled in Well Lane North Stifford until one year the mardyke burst its banks and flooded they stable yard and guess what I did???? I moved my horse to a different yard with no history of flooding..........it doesn't take much to work out right from wrong. benny16
  • Score: 12

8:15pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Actresponsibly says...

benny16 wrote:
Jack222 are you for real??? How would you like to live in dirty water up to your knees only be fed rotten food and be helpless while you watch your friends and family drown in front of you? Surely you are one of the horse owners as who else would have such an inhumane opinion? Owning an animal of any kind is a privilege and if people are not prepared to treat them with the respect they deserve then they should not have them. Horses in particular are very trusting honest animals and to see them mistreated in the way I have when I have drove past them makes me feel sick. I am so relieved that these poor ponies are no longer living in misery, can you imagine how depressed they must have been? I used to have my horse stabled in Well Lane North Stifford until one year the mardyke burst its banks and flooded they stable yard and guess what I did???? I moved my horse to a different yard with no history of flooding..........it doesn't take much to work out right from wrong.
This could possibly be the Jack who is the boyfriend of the owner of some of the horses?
[quote][p][bold]benny16[/bold] wrote: Jack222 are you for real??? How would you like to live in dirty water up to your knees only be fed rotten food and be helpless while you watch your friends and family drown in front of you? Surely you are one of the horse owners as who else would have such an inhumane opinion? Owning an animal of any kind is a privilege and if people are not prepared to treat them with the respect they deserve then they should not have them. Horses in particular are very trusting honest animals and to see them mistreated in the way I have when I have drove past them makes me feel sick. I am so relieved that these poor ponies are no longer living in misery, can you imagine how depressed they must have been? I used to have my horse stabled in Well Lane North Stifford until one year the mardyke burst its banks and flooded they stable yard and guess what I did???? I moved my horse to a different yard with no history of flooding..........it doesn't take much to work out right from wrong.[/p][/quote]This could possibly be the Jack who is the boyfriend of the owner of some of the horses? Actresponsibly
  • Score: 6

8:26pm Sat 4 Jan 14

TOBI13 says...

yes benny16 this is the exact point right from wrong, forget red tape and policies to hide behind do the right thing TBC, BY THOSE ANIMALS NOW residents have seen them suffer for years. ITS WRONG PLEASE PUT IT RIGHT.
yes benny16 this is the exact point right from wrong, forget red tape and policies to hide behind do the right thing TBC, BY THOSE ANIMALS NOW residents have seen them suffer for years. ITS WRONG PLEASE PUT IT RIGHT. TOBI13
  • Score: 8

8:35pm Sat 4 Jan 14

BobbyD84 says...

I thought the TBC had moved these horses - but no, they're still there miserably trying to live in the most awful conditions. In my opinion the RSPCA have failed these poor animals. The police obviously don't want to be involved or spend money and neither does the council. TBC, as the landlord, has the right to remove the horses but has chosen not to. This is not the first winter they have been aware of the problem either. They should be ashamed that so many of their residents (and non-residents) know how little they care. It should also be pointed out to them that the land cannot be inspected and the horses sighted by a mere drive by. They need to get off their backsides and out of the car and WALK it. Or should I say wade? It is also my belief that TBC has received funding from the Heritage Lottery Fund to make improvements to this land. What exactly have they been spending the money on?
I thought the TBC had moved these horses - but no, they're still there miserably trying to live in the most awful conditions. In my opinion the RSPCA have failed these poor animals. The police obviously don't want to be involved or spend money and neither does the council. TBC, as the landlord, has the right to remove the horses but has chosen not to. This is not the first winter they have been aware of the problem either. They should be ashamed that so many of their residents (and non-residents) know how little they care. It should also be pointed out to them that the land cannot be inspected and the horses sighted by a mere drive by. They need to get off their backsides and out of the car and WALK it. Or should I say wade? It is also my belief that TBC has received funding from the Heritage Lottery Fund to make improvements to this land. What exactly have they been spending the money on? BobbyD84
  • Score: 8

8:58pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Marcus P says...

Why put all the blame on the council? The people who own them must be held responsible for their plight.
Why put all the blame on the council? The people who own them must be held responsible for their plight. Marcus P
  • Score: 7

9:00pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Marcus P says...

Tokka1 wrote:
Jack222 = complete nob head who really has no idea!
I think he is a wind up merchant.
[quote][p][bold]Tokka1[/bold] wrote: Jack222 = complete nob head who really has no idea![/p][/quote]I think he is a wind up merchant. Marcus P
  • Score: 2

9:06pm Sat 4 Jan 14

TOBI13 says...

BOBBYD84
I wonder how much monitoring has been done by TBC DOWN THERE
How much management has been done down there by TBC

FACT
The POLICE RSPCA TBC all have the powers to remove the horses
FACT
It is purely money thats stops this happening
FACT
Very sad situation
BOBBYD84 I wonder how much monitoring has been done by TBC DOWN THERE How much management has been done down there by TBC FACT The POLICE RSPCA TBC all have the powers to remove the horses FACT It is purely money thats stops this happening FACT Very sad situation TOBI13
  • Score: 5

9:12pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Fightforrights4animals says...

I have driven past there today and it is like looking at a lake, those poor horses deserve to be kept somewhere safe, warm and, more importantly at the moment, dry!! It would be interesting to know if any of these horses have valid equine passports, maybe a visit from the Trading Standards is required.
I have driven past there today and it is like looking at a lake, those poor horses deserve to be kept somewhere safe, warm and, more importantly at the moment, dry!! It would be interesting to know if any of these horses have valid equine passports, maybe a visit from the Trading Standards is required. Fightforrights4animals
  • Score: 6

9:14pm Sat 4 Jan 14

kerriganbryn says...

To Thurrock Council I have lived near the Mardyke for over 20 years and seen the disgraceful way these horses have had to live all this time, every year like minded people like myself have complained about the way these horses have had to endure living on the flood plain, many have lost their lives because you do nothing, you may only be the landlords, but you do have a duty of care for these animals and should make the owners of these animals move them to somewhere else and refuse to let them back on the land. The RSPCA should be ashamed for not taking further action, but their hands are tied because you will not back them up, the police do nothing, but like the RSPCA their hands are tie and cannot do anything - BUT YOU CAN DO SOMETHING - YOU OWN THE LAND, YOU MUST COLLECT RENT FROM THE OWNERS OF THE HORSES SO YOU KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE - SO DO SOMETHING AND STOP THE SUFFERING !!!!
To Thurrock Council I have lived near the Mardyke for over 20 years and seen the disgraceful way these horses have had to live all this time, every year like minded people like myself have complained about the way these horses have had to endure living on the flood plain, many have lost their lives because you do nothing, you may only be the landlords, but you do have a duty of care for these animals and should make the owners of these animals move them to somewhere else and refuse to let them back on the land. The RSPCA should be ashamed for not taking further action, but their hands are tied because you will not back them up, the police do nothing, but like the RSPCA their hands are tie and cannot do anything - BUT YOU CAN DO SOMETHING - YOU OWN THE LAND, YOU MUST COLLECT RENT FROM THE OWNERS OF THE HORSES SO YOU KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE - SO DO SOMETHING AND STOP THE SUFFERING !!!! kerriganbryn
  • Score: 8

9:18pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Actresponsibly says...

Marcus P wrote:
Why put all the blame on the council? The people who own them must be held responsible for their plight.
Marcus P - the people who own the horses obviously don't give a **** and yes, they should, be made accountable. However, Thurrock Council is the landlord here and has powers to do something immediately. But no, as ever, they drag their heels. They are all well fed, warm and comfortable - no thought at all for the horses. Thurrock Council should have entered into a proper grazing agreement with the tenant in the first place. THEY and THEY alone can make a difference - they could either get the tenant off entirely OR make him move the animals so safety. Why don't they do this? Because the tenant has illegally sublet to all and sundry and the Council have totally lost control of the whole situation. The only concern is for those horses and their safety - nothing more nothing less. So let's stop blaming every other agency - Thurrock made the mess, Thurrock should sort it out. Interestingly, they were very happy to accept £611,00 from Heritage Lottery some time back and have, surprise surprise, not monitored that particular situation either! The horse owners don't give a ****. Do Thurrock Council allow all their tenants to completely and utterly breach their leases/agreements? I think not. There is a lot more going on here than people realise. Tenant? Buck up or bail out. Another factor here is I wonder if a visit from Trading Standards should perhaps be made? I bet your bottom dollar none of those horses have valid passports!
[quote][p][bold]Marcus P[/bold] wrote: Why put all the blame on the council? The people who own them must be held responsible for their plight.[/p][/quote]Marcus P - the people who own the horses obviously don't give a **** and yes, they should, be made accountable. However, Thurrock Council is the landlord here and has powers to do something immediately. But no, as ever, they drag their heels. They are all well fed, warm and comfortable - no thought at all for the horses. Thurrock Council should have entered into a proper grazing agreement with the tenant in the first place. THEY and THEY alone can make a difference - they could either get the tenant off entirely OR make him move the animals so safety. Why don't they do this? Because the tenant has illegally sublet to all and sundry and the Council have totally lost control of the whole situation. The only concern is for those horses and their safety - nothing more nothing less. So let's stop blaming every other agency - Thurrock made the mess, Thurrock should sort it out. Interestingly, they were very happy to accept £611,00 from Heritage Lottery some time back and have, surprise surprise, not monitored that particular situation either! The horse owners don't give a ****. Do Thurrock Council allow all their tenants to completely and utterly breach their leases/agreements? I think not. There is a lot more going on here than people realise. Tenant? Buck up or bail out. Another factor here is I wonder if a visit from Trading Standards should perhaps be made? I bet your bottom dollar none of those horses have valid passports! Actresponsibly
  • Score: 7

9:21pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Actresponsibly says...

kerriganbryn wrote:
To Thurrock Council I have lived near the Mardyke for over 20 years and seen the disgraceful way these horses have had to live all this time, every year like minded people like myself have complained about the way these horses have had to endure living on the flood plain, many have lost their lives because you do nothing, you may only be the landlords, but you do have a duty of care for these animals and should make the owners of these animals move them to somewhere else and refuse to let them back on the land. The RSPCA should be ashamed for not taking further action, but their hands are tied because you will not back them up, the police do nothing, but like the RSPCA their hands are tie and cannot do anything - BUT YOU CAN DO SOMETHING - YOU OWN THE LAND, YOU MUST COLLECT RENT FROM THE OWNERS OF THE HORSES SO YOU KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE - SO DO SOMETHING AND STOP THE SUFFERING !!!!
Rent collected? Don't think so Kerriganbryn. Tenant pays no rent but sub-lets illegally to a load of people who don't know what care of horses is! I bet every tenant of Thurrock would like to inhabit premises rent free and breach the agreement day after day with no comeuppance. What a joke these people are and the poor taxpayers of Thurrock have this bunch of noddies to contend with. If it wasn't so sad about the horses, it would be laughable.
[quote][p][bold]kerriganbryn[/bold] wrote: To Thurrock Council I have lived near the Mardyke for over 20 years and seen the disgraceful way these horses have had to live all this time, every year like minded people like myself have complained about the way these horses have had to endure living on the flood plain, many have lost their lives because you do nothing, you may only be the landlords, but you do have a duty of care for these animals and should make the owners of these animals move them to somewhere else and refuse to let them back on the land. The RSPCA should be ashamed for not taking further action, but their hands are tied because you will not back them up, the police do nothing, but like the RSPCA their hands are tie and cannot do anything - BUT YOU CAN DO SOMETHING - YOU OWN THE LAND, YOU MUST COLLECT RENT FROM THE OWNERS OF THE HORSES SO YOU KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE - SO DO SOMETHING AND STOP THE SUFFERING !!!![/p][/quote]Rent collected? Don't think so Kerriganbryn. Tenant pays no rent but sub-lets illegally to a load of people who don't know what care of horses is! I bet every tenant of Thurrock would like to inhabit premises rent free and breach the agreement day after day with no comeuppance. What a joke these people are and the poor taxpayers of Thurrock have this bunch of noddies to contend with. If it wasn't so sad about the horses, it would be laughable. Actresponsibly
  • Score: 4

9:26pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Actresponsibly says...

Marcus P wrote:
Tokka1 wrote:
Jack222 = complete nob head who really has no idea!
I think he is a wind up merchant.
More likely one of the horse owners' boyfriend!
[quote][p][bold]Marcus P[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tokka1[/bold] wrote: Jack222 = complete nob head who really has no idea![/p][/quote]I think he is a wind up merchant.[/p][/quote]More likely one of the horse owners' boyfriend! Actresponsibly
  • Score: 5

9:27pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Berry33 says...

Totally disgraceful these people who keep their horses is these conditions obviously don't care about the welfare of their horse, How would the owners of these horses feel if they had to live in the same conditions ,
Totally disgraceful these people who keep their horses is these conditions obviously don't care about the welfare of their horse, How would the owners of these horses feel if they had to live in the same conditions , Berry33
  • Score: 6

9:29pm Sat 4 Jan 14

TOBI13 says...

Marcus P wrote:
Why put all the blame on the council? The people who own them must be held responsible for their plight.
good question
but do the council know who owns them? surely i should know who lives in my house. should there only be one tenant or is there sub letting going on and is that allowed? who should be responsible there then.
[quote][p][bold]Marcus P[/bold] wrote: Why put all the blame on the council? The people who own them must be held responsible for their plight.[/p][/quote]good question but do the council know who owns them? surely i should know who lives in my house. should there only be one tenant or is there sub letting going on and is that allowed? who should be responsible there then. TOBI13
  • Score: 6

9:29pm Sat 4 Jan 14

dogslife says...

I drove past these horses on the 11 November 2013 and the area was badly flooded then, can't imagine what it is like now. As the landowner Thurrock Council has the authority to remove these horses after giving the owners notice that it will be done.
They also have the authority to enforce the horse passports.

Of course the owners are the ones responsible but if they won't act then Thurrock must.
I drove past these horses on the 11 November 2013 and the area was badly flooded then, can't imagine what it is like now. As the landowner Thurrock Council has the authority to remove these horses after giving the owners notice that it will be done. They also have the authority to enforce the horse passports. Of course the owners are the ones responsible but if they won't act then Thurrock must. dogslife
  • Score: 7

9:29pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Actresponsibly says...

BobbyD84 wrote:
I thought the TBC had moved these horses - but no, they're still there miserably trying to live in the most awful conditions. In my opinion the RSPCA have failed these poor animals. The police obviously don't want to be involved or spend money and neither does the council. TBC, as the landlord, has the right to remove the horses but has chosen not to. This is not the first winter they have been aware of the problem either. They should be ashamed that so many of their residents (and non-residents) know how little they care. It should also be pointed out to them that the land cannot be inspected and the horses sighted by a mere drive by. They need to get off their backsides and out of the car and WALK it. Or should I say wade? It is also my belief that TBC has received funding from the Heritage Lottery Fund to make improvements to this land. What exactly have they been spending the money on?
Interesting. Thurrock Council have also been caught out willy nilly spending extortionate amounts of money on a horse collection agency over the years who picked up loose horses on their behalf. No records kept, no monitoring of what happened to the horses, no monitoring of the charges made by that collection agency ....... Thurrock Council have no idea on how to spend the taxpayers' hard earned money wisely. The people in charge at Thurrock should be severely taken to task on this NOW!
[quote][p][bold]BobbyD84[/bold] wrote: I thought the TBC had moved these horses - but no, they're still there miserably trying to live in the most awful conditions. In my opinion the RSPCA have failed these poor animals. The police obviously don't want to be involved or spend money and neither does the council. TBC, as the landlord, has the right to remove the horses but has chosen not to. This is not the first winter they have been aware of the problem either. They should be ashamed that so many of their residents (and non-residents) know how little they care. It should also be pointed out to them that the land cannot be inspected and the horses sighted by a mere drive by. They need to get off their backsides and out of the car and WALK it. Or should I say wade? It is also my belief that TBC has received funding from the Heritage Lottery Fund to make improvements to this land. What exactly have they been spending the money on?[/p][/quote]Interesting. Thurrock Council have also been caught out willy nilly spending extortionate amounts of money on a horse collection agency over the years who picked up loose horses on their behalf. No records kept, no monitoring of what happened to the horses, no monitoring of the charges made by that collection agency ....... Thurrock Council have no idea on how to spend the taxpayers' hard earned money wisely. The people in charge at Thurrock should be severely taken to task on this NOW! Actresponsibly
  • Score: 6

9:34pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Actresponsibly says...

dogslife wrote:
I drove past these horses on the 11 November 2013 and the area was badly flooded then, can't imagine what it is like now. As the landowner Thurrock Council has the authority to remove these horses after giving the owners notice that it will be done.
They also have the authority to enforce the horse passports.

Of course the owners are the ones responsible but if they won't act then Thurrock must.
Good idea. Ask the tenant for sight of passports for each horse. He won't of course be able to provide them (not in his name at least!) Easy peasey. Then get Trading Standards straight onto it. If horses not microchipped then, by law, they don't belong to anyone so they can be removed to safety. If anyone does lay claim and they aren't passported or microchipped - gottcha - £10,000 please sir/madam per horsey
[quote][p][bold]dogslife[/bold] wrote: I drove past these horses on the 11 November 2013 and the area was badly flooded then, can't imagine what it is like now. As the landowner Thurrock Council has the authority to remove these horses after giving the owners notice that it will be done. They also have the authority to enforce the horse passports. Of course the owners are the ones responsible but if they won't act then Thurrock must.[/p][/quote]Good idea. Ask the tenant for sight of passports for each horse. He won't of course be able to provide them (not in his name at least!) Easy peasey. Then get Trading Standards straight onto it. If horses not microchipped then, by law, they don't belong to anyone so they can be removed to safety. If anyone does lay claim and they aren't passported or microchipped - gottcha - £10,000 please sir/madam per horsey Actresponsibly
  • Score: 5

9:41pm Sat 4 Jan 14

benny16 says...

Actresponsibly wrote:
benny16 wrote:
Jack222 are you for real??? How would you like to live in dirty water up to your knees only be fed rotten food and be helpless while you watch your friends and family drown in front of you? Surely you are one of the horse owners as who else would have such an inhumane opinion? Owning an animal of any kind is a privilege and if people are not prepared to treat them with the respect they deserve then they should not have them. Horses in particular are very trusting honest animals and to see them mistreated in the way I have when I have drove past them makes me feel sick. I am so relieved that these poor ponies are no longer living in misery, can you imagine how depressed they must have been? I used to have my horse stabled in Well Lane North Stifford until one year the mardyke burst its banks and flooded they stable yard and guess what I did???? I moved my horse to a different yard with no history of flooding..........it doesn't take much to work out right from wrong.
This could possibly be the Jack who is the boyfriend of the owner of some of the horses?
****..jack!!
I heard that the horses have been removed, I have seen them for myself today and it breaks my heart. How can you TBC use my taxes to allow animal abuse to go on??? I am going to contact a national newspaper they will uncover TBC's actions!!
[quote][p][bold]Actresponsibly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benny16[/bold] wrote: Jack222 are you for real??? How would you like to live in dirty water up to your knees only be fed rotten food and be helpless while you watch your friends and family drown in front of you? Surely you are one of the horse owners as who else would have such an inhumane opinion? Owning an animal of any kind is a privilege and if people are not prepared to treat them with the respect they deserve then they should not have them. Horses in particular are very trusting honest animals and to see them mistreated in the way I have when I have drove past them makes me feel sick. I am so relieved that these poor ponies are no longer living in misery, can you imagine how depressed they must have been? I used to have my horse stabled in Well Lane North Stifford until one year the mardyke burst its banks and flooded they stable yard and guess what I did???? I moved my horse to a different yard with no history of flooding..........it doesn't take much to work out right from wrong.[/p][/quote]This could possibly be the Jack who is the boyfriend of the owner of some of the horses?[/p][/quote]****..jack!! I heard that the horses have been removed, I have seen them for myself today and it breaks my heart. How can you TBC use my taxes to allow animal abuse to go on??? I am going to contact a national newspaper they will uncover TBC's actions!! benny16
  • Score: 10

9:45pm Sat 4 Jan 14

benny16 says...

I used to be a council tenant and when I contacted them due to a boiler problem they made the repair man insist on seeing photo ID before he carried out any work as the lady on the phone for some reason suspected I was not the tenant and was living in an illegally sub let council flat, of course they were wrong but what on earth has gone on here to allow the acceptance of lottery funding (I wonder what the lottery would do if they knew) and then to illegally sub let the land. Who is accountable for the monies received and who is responsible for the tenancy contracts? I hope your job is on the line!!! How can you sleep at night knowing about those poor ponies? There was a rumour going about that the horses had been moved, where did it come from? Did it originate from TBC? They are there I have seen them myself today, still wading in the water. TBC YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES YOU HAVE USED MY TAXES TO ABUSE ANIMALS!!!!!!!!!!!!
I used to be a council tenant and when I contacted them due to a boiler problem they made the repair man insist on seeing photo ID before he carried out any work as the lady on the phone for some reason suspected I was not the tenant and was living in an illegally sub let council flat, of course they were wrong but what on earth has gone on here to allow the acceptance of lottery funding (I wonder what the lottery would do if they knew) and then to illegally sub let the land. Who is accountable for the monies received and who is responsible for the tenancy contracts? I hope your job is on the line!!! How can you sleep at night knowing about those poor ponies? There was a rumour going about that the horses had been moved, where did it come from? Did it originate from TBC? They are there I have seen them myself today, still wading in the water. TBC YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES YOU HAVE USED MY TAXES TO ABUSE ANIMALS!!!!!!!!!!!! benny16
  • Score: 10

9:54pm Sat 4 Jan 14

BobbyD84 says...

The type of owners who persists in keeping their horses in these conditions are certainly not the type to have them passported, freezemarked or microchipped. They just wouldn't spend the time or money on any of it. They are not going to come forward, they are not there legitimately (i.e. not the tenant/leaseholder) and this is why TBC should take responsibility and removed the horses to safety. Someone there has seriously failed in their duties by not managing the area and ignoring all the complaints made by residents about it. As far as this issue is concerned, they are deaf.
The type of owners who persists in keeping their horses in these conditions are certainly not the type to have them passported, freezemarked or microchipped. They just wouldn't spend the time or money on any of it. They are not going to come forward, they are not there legitimately (i.e. not the tenant/leaseholder) and this is why TBC should take responsibility and removed the horses to safety. Someone there has seriously failed in their duties by not managing the area and ignoring all the complaints made by residents about it. As far as this issue is concerned, they are deaf. BobbyD84
  • Score: 6

10:12pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Bellaboo44 says...

Thurrock Council these horses are going to be drowning in no time, and you are the people with the power to do something about this as a matter of urgency. All that's required is a safe place for these horses to be moved to for the winter months so they can have a life instead of fight for their lives daily. Wading through water and climbing to a dry patch that is getting ever smaller, do you really think this is acceptable to see this go on and on every Winter?
Do something about it once and for all..
Thurrock Council these horses are going to be drowning in no time, and you are the people with the power to do something about this as a matter of urgency. All that's required is a safe place for these horses to be moved to for the winter months so they can have a life instead of fight for their lives daily. Wading through water and climbing to a dry patch that is getting ever smaller, do you really think this is acceptable to see this go on and on every Winter? Do something about it once and for all.. Bellaboo44
  • Score: 10

10:23pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Peelerry says...

This needs action now! It is a downright disgrace! The lottery should be informed, newspapers, TV! These horses are in plain sight of people day in day out! All these rescues have their hands tied with a load of red tape but nothing is as loud as the voice of the public - we need to be putting pressure on those that can do something, namely the people at Thurrock council! Are they scared of the tennant(s)? Why won't they act? Send emails, share this post on facebook and Twitter - let the community and beyond know what a disgrace this council is!
This needs action now! It is a downright disgrace! The lottery should be informed, newspapers, TV! These horses are in plain sight of people day in day out! All these rescues have their hands tied with a load of red tape but nothing is as loud as the voice of the public - we need to be putting pressure on those that can do something, namely the people at Thurrock council! Are they scared of the tennant(s)? Why won't they act? Send emails, share this post on facebook and Twitter - let the community and beyond know what a disgrace this council is! Peelerry
  • Score: 7

10:30pm Sat 4 Jan 14

TOBI13 says...

Reading these comments makes me sad so many people outraged, concerned, angry and disappointed. these wonderful creatures have served us over the years in so many ways. We are a nation of animals lovers. Many great figures in our history have been seated on a horse. SO PLEASE HELP THESE HORSES TBC. RESPECT THEM AND TAKE THEM TO SAFETY NOW.
Reading these comments makes me sad so many people outraged, concerned, angry and disappointed. these wonderful creatures have served us over the years in so many ways. We are a nation of animals lovers. Many great figures in our history have been seated on a horse. SO PLEASE HELP THESE HORSES TBC. RESPECT THEM AND TAKE THEM TO SAFETY NOW. TOBI13
  • Score: 6

10:36pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Actresponsibly says...

TOBI13 wrote:
Reading these comments makes me sad so many people outraged, concerned, angry and disappointed. these wonderful creatures have served us over the years in so many ways. We are a nation of animals lovers. Many great figures in our history have been seated on a horse. SO PLEASE HELP THESE HORSES TBC. RESPECT THEM AND TAKE THEM TO SAFETY NOW.
Sadly I don't think TBC know the meaning of respect! They have no respect for these poor animals' lives, no respect for taxpayers whose money they have squandered on Horse Help Limited, the horse collection agency they used for many years .... they are fat cats on fat cat salaries and should be made to be answerable. If they worked for me, they would be in the dole queue by now. Why are we paying these idiots to do such an appalling job. No only are they incompetent, they don't properly answer for their actions, make excuses etc. They would never survive in the "real world", so why do the residents of Thurrock have to be shortchanged?
[quote][p][bold]TOBI13[/bold] wrote: Reading these comments makes me sad so many people outraged, concerned, angry and disappointed. these wonderful creatures have served us over the years in so many ways. We are a nation of animals lovers. Many great figures in our history have been seated on a horse. SO PLEASE HELP THESE HORSES TBC. RESPECT THEM AND TAKE THEM TO SAFETY NOW.[/p][/quote]Sadly I don't think TBC know the meaning of respect! They have no respect for these poor animals' lives, no respect for taxpayers whose money they have squandered on Horse Help Limited, the horse collection agency they used for many years .... they are fat cats on fat cat salaries and should be made to be answerable. If they worked for me, they would be in the dole queue by now. Why are we paying these idiots to do such an appalling job. No only are they incompetent, they don't properly answer for their actions, make excuses etc. They would never survive in the "real world", so why do the residents of Thurrock have to be shortchanged? Actresponsibly
  • Score: 4

10:50pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Yashmak says...

I am a resident of Thurrock and a horse owner. A responsible and caring horseowner. I am incensed at Thurrock Council's dreadful attitude to this whole situation. Horses have drowned on the Mardykes for years. More years than I care to remember. As landlord they should be dealing with their tenant appropriately not trying to pass the buck onto everyone else. How would they like to live in cold, freezing water, living on stale bread? I hope you are all happily sitting at home relaxing tonight guys, warm, well fed and contended. I hope also that you come back in the next life as someone who is abused in the same way as these poor horses Council land. You are evil, cold, callous excuses for human beings.
I am a resident of Thurrock and a horse owner. A responsible and caring horseowner. I am incensed at Thurrock Council's dreadful attitude to this whole situation. Horses have drowned on the Mardykes for years. More years than I care to remember. As landlord they should be dealing with their tenant appropriately not trying to pass the buck onto everyone else. How would they like to live in cold, freezing water, living on stale bread? I hope you are all happily sitting at home relaxing tonight guys, warm, well fed and contended. I hope also that you come back in the next life as someone who is abused in the same way as these poor horses Council land. You are evil, cold, callous excuses for human beings. Yashmak
  • Score: 7

10:57pm Sat 4 Jan 14

hencat says...

Have you seen the state of those poor horses Jack222? If you have then you must be seriously deluded if you think its an ok situation. If you haven't, go and look at them and if you don't have any sympathy for those poor animals you must be a cold - hearted individual ( I wanted to use a stronger word!). Thurrock Council as you rent out this land you must take the responsibility without question. Unfortunately I have to pass them on the way to Kent with my grandchildren, I make sure we are engaged in playing a game in the car so that they are spared the terrible sight. Thank God for organisations such as EHPPS doing sterling work for dumb animals. Councillors, you should hang your heads in shame, it's gone on long enough. DO THE RIGHT THING!!
Have you seen the state of those poor horses Jack222? If you have then you must be seriously deluded if you think its an ok situation. If you haven't, go and look at them and if you don't have any sympathy for those poor animals you must be a cold - hearted individual ( I wanted to use a stronger word!). Thurrock Council as you rent out this land you must take the responsibility without question. Unfortunately I have to pass them on the way to Kent with my grandchildren, I make sure we are engaged in playing a game in the car so that they are spared the terrible sight. Thank God for organisations such as EHPPS doing sterling work for dumb animals. Councillors, you should hang your heads in shame, it's gone on long enough. DO THE RIGHT THING!! hencat
  • Score: 4

11:05pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Actresponsibly says...

hencat wrote:
Have you seen the state of those poor horses Jack222? If you have then you must be seriously deluded if you think its an ok situation. If you haven't, go and look at them and if you don't have any sympathy for those poor animals you must be a cold - hearted individual ( I wanted to use a stronger word!). Thurrock Council as you rent out this land you must take the responsibility without question. Unfortunately I have to pass them on the way to Kent with my grandchildren, I make sure we are engaged in playing a game in the car so that they are spared the terrible sight. Thank God for organisations such as EHPPS doing sterling work for dumb animals. Councillors, you should hang your heads in shame, it's gone on long enough. DO THE RIGHT THING!!
Methinks Jack222 has seen the horses - well at least he is involved with the owner of three of them. Poor souls - covered in burrs and two in filthy old rugs. The poor little grey breaks my heart every time I go down there. The owner is obviously too wrapped up in herself to think about them. This horse owner is also there illegally as a sub-tenant. Thurrock Council are also aware of this and the lady's full name, address and telephone number!
[quote][p][bold]hencat[/bold] wrote: Have you seen the state of those poor horses Jack222? If you have then you must be seriously deluded if you think its an ok situation. If you haven't, go and look at them and if you don't have any sympathy for those poor animals you must be a cold - hearted individual ( I wanted to use a stronger word!). Thurrock Council as you rent out this land you must take the responsibility without question. Unfortunately I have to pass them on the way to Kent with my grandchildren, I make sure we are engaged in playing a game in the car so that they are spared the terrible sight. Thank God for organisations such as EHPPS doing sterling work for dumb animals. Councillors, you should hang your heads in shame, it's gone on long enough. DO THE RIGHT THING!![/p][/quote]Methinks Jack222 has seen the horses - well at least he is involved with the owner of three of them. Poor souls - covered in burrs and two in filthy old rugs. The poor little grey breaks my heart every time I go down there. The owner is obviously too wrapped up in herself to think about them. This horse owner is also there illegally as a sub-tenant. Thurrock Council are also aware of this and the lady's full name, address and telephone number! Actresponsibly
  • Score: 4

1:35am Sun 5 Jan 14

dogslife says...

If Thurrock Council have lifted horses before I can't understand why they are dragging their feet over these ones, they obviously have the knowledge and contacts so why are they doing nothing?
If Thurrock Council have lifted horses before I can't understand why they are dragging their feet over these ones, they obviously have the knowledge and contacts so why are they doing nothing? dogslife
  • Score: 5

9:17am Sun 5 Jan 14

Actresponsibly says...

Also if the horse in the photo anything to do with Mardykes? Underweight, poor condition and bak hooves (can't see front) are dreadful. One short and the other long! Sick to death of people who dont treat their animals properly but certainly look after themselves.
Also if the horse in the photo anything to do with Mardykes? Underweight, poor condition and bak hooves (can't see front) are dreadful. One short and the other long! Sick to death of people who dont treat their animals properly but certainly look after themselves. Actresponsibly
  • Score: 6

10:07am Sun 5 Jan 14

Syd2012 says...

What more can I add to these comments. My family has owned horses since the children were small, and were always taught to care for them. As a responsible animal owner it sickens me every time i travel down Ship Lane and see these horses left in appalling conditions. PLEASE WHO EVER IS RESPONSIBLE DO SOMETHING NOW.
What more can I add to these comments. My family has owned horses since the children were small, and were always taught to care for them. As a responsible animal owner it sickens me every time i travel down Ship Lane and see these horses left in appalling conditions. PLEASE WHO EVER IS RESPONSIBLE DO SOMETHING NOW. Syd2012
  • Score: 5

12:58pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Alipip says...

This is sickening, as a responsible horse owner it makes me so angry to see these poor animals. It costs money to look after animals, and if you are not prepared to spend money and just as importantly time on them, don't get them.
Something needs to be done to help these poor horses.
This is sickening, as a responsible horse owner it makes me so angry to see these poor animals. It costs money to look after animals, and if you are not prepared to spend money and just as importantly time on them, don't get them. Something needs to be done to help these poor horses. Alipip
  • Score: 5

3:44pm Sun 5 Jan 14

happyalso says...

I have lost count of the amount of times I have seen these horses running loose on Ship Lane late at night, I am fed up swerving around them.
obviously they are trying to get away from the water, if someone gets killed it won't be someone from the council because they will be tucked up in bed.
I have lost count of the amount of times I have seen these horses running loose on Ship Lane late at night, I am fed up swerving around them. obviously they are trying to get away from the water, if someone gets killed it won't be someone from the council because they will be tucked up in bed. happyalso
  • Score: 5

4:49pm Sun 5 Jan 14

benny16 says...

hencat wrote:
Have you seen the state of those poor horses Jack222? If you have then you must be seriously deluded if you think its an ok situation. If you haven't, go and look at them and if you don't have any sympathy for those poor animals you must be a cold - hearted individual ( I wanted to use a stronger word!). Thurrock Council as you rent out this land you must take the responsibility without question. Unfortunately I have to pass them on the way to Kent with my grandchildren, I make sure we are engaged in playing a game in the car so that they are spared the terrible sight. Thank God for organisations such as EHPPS doing sterling work for dumb animals. Councillors, you should hang your heads in shame, it's gone on long enough. DO THE RIGHT THING!!
I just wanted to make you aware that Cllr Lynn Carr from South Ockendon along with Sue Allery the chairman of EHPPS are the people who have got this story to be noticed so far, they have both been tirelessly working on this to get these horses moved. I do agree that the Aveley Cllr's need to find a back bone as Cllr Carr is not based in Aveley, but she has a heart hence she has been acting on this. Check out the your Thurrock page Jackie Doyle-Price the MP has now got involved. There have been discussions about the mis- treatment of horses in parliament so this is what they are talking about. I just hope Jackie Doyle-Price has the powers to make TBC act. PLEASE COMMENT ON YOUR THURROCK PAGE TOO THE MORE COMMENTS THAT ARE LEFT THE MORE TBC HAVE TO NOTICE!!!
[quote][p][bold]hencat[/bold] wrote: Have you seen the state of those poor horses Jack222? If you have then you must be seriously deluded if you think its an ok situation. If you haven't, go and look at them and if you don't have any sympathy for those poor animals you must be a cold - hearted individual ( I wanted to use a stronger word!). Thurrock Council as you rent out this land you must take the responsibility without question. Unfortunately I have to pass them on the way to Kent with my grandchildren, I make sure we are engaged in playing a game in the car so that they are spared the terrible sight. Thank God for organisations such as EHPPS doing sterling work for dumb animals. Councillors, you should hang your heads in shame, it's gone on long enough. DO THE RIGHT THING!![/p][/quote]I just wanted to make you aware that Cllr Lynn Carr from South Ockendon along with Sue Allery the chairman of EHPPS are the people who have got this story to be noticed so far, they have both been tirelessly working on this to get these horses moved. I do agree that the Aveley Cllr's need to find a back bone as Cllr Carr is not based in Aveley, but she has a heart hence she has been acting on this. Check out the your Thurrock page Jackie Doyle-Price the MP has now got involved. There have been discussions about the mis- treatment of horses in parliament so this is what they are talking about. I just hope Jackie Doyle-Price has the powers to make TBC act. PLEASE COMMENT ON YOUR THURROCK PAGE TOO THE MORE COMMENTS THAT ARE LEFT THE MORE TBC HAVE TO NOTICE!!! benny16
  • Score: 3

6:04pm Sun 5 Jan 14

skinthegoat says...

How ridiculous to expect the rate payers of Thurrock (of which I am one) to bear the cost of sorting this problem out. I am no fan of TBC but what the hell has it got to do with them? That area of the Mardyke is a flood plain, and if that is interfered with the water will go somewhere else. Anybody up for flooding to protect horses? Anybody?

If certain people (I think we know who we are talking about) are going to do as they likey, then let them foot the bill. They have the sole responsibility for these horses, and no one else.

As an aside, where I live some, shall we say, "itinerants" had a large number of horses grazing nearby. For some reason the horses stampeded through our street, trampling and destroying gardens, and creating absolute mayhem.
How ridiculous to expect the rate payers of Thurrock (of which I am one) to bear the cost of sorting this problem out. I am no fan of TBC but what the hell has it got to do with them? That area of the Mardyke is a flood plain, and if that is interfered with the water will go somewhere else. Anybody up for flooding to protect horses? Anybody? If certain people (I think we know who we are talking about) are going to do as they likey, then let them foot the bill. They have the sole responsibility for these horses, and no one else. As an aside, where I live some, shall we say, "itinerants" had a large number of horses grazing nearby. For some reason the horses stampeded through our street, trampling and destroying gardens, and creating absolute mayhem. skinthegoat
  • Score: 4

7:32pm Sun 5 Jan 14

bubble30 says...

Absolutely ridiculous, something must be done about this and soon
Absolutely ridiculous, something must be done about this and soon bubble30
  • Score: 1

8:12pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Marcus P says...

skinthegoat wrote:
How ridiculous to expect the rate payers of Thurrock (of which I am one) to bear the cost of sorting this problem out. I am no fan of TBC but what the hell has it got to do with them? That area of the Mardyke is a flood plain, and if that is interfered with the water will go somewhere else. Anybody up for flooding to protect horses? Anybody?

If certain people (I think we know who we are talking about) are going to do as they likey, then let them foot the bill. They have the sole responsibility for these horses, and no one else.

As an aside, where I live some, shall we say, "itinerants" had a large number of horses grazing nearby. For some reason the horses stampeded through our street, trampling and destroying gardens, and creating absolute mayhem.
Are the owners of these poor horses members of a certain ahem....cultural friendship group?

Perhaps these animals have been abandoned on purpose?

I am astounded the RSPCA haven't intervened.
[quote][p][bold]skinthegoat[/bold] wrote: How ridiculous to expect the rate payers of Thurrock (of which I am one) to bear the cost of sorting this problem out. I am no fan of TBC but what the hell has it got to do with them? That area of the Mardyke is a flood plain, and if that is interfered with the water will go somewhere else. Anybody up for flooding to protect horses? Anybody? If certain people (I think we know who we are talking about) are going to do as they likey, then let them foot the bill. They have the sole responsibility for these horses, and no one else. As an aside, where I live some, shall we say, "itinerants" had a large number of horses grazing nearby. For some reason the horses stampeded through our street, trampling and destroying gardens, and creating absolute mayhem.[/p][/quote]Are the owners of these poor horses members of a certain ahem....cultural friendship group? Perhaps these animals have been abandoned on purpose? I am astounded the RSPCA haven't intervened. Marcus P
  • Score: 2

8:16pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Berry33 says...

More rain but at least the owners of these horses are tucked up and cosy in their nice warm horses
More rain but at least the owners of these horses are tucked up and cosy in their nice warm horses Berry33
  • Score: 2

8:19pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Berry33 says...

Houses even
Houses even Berry33
  • Score: 2

8:22pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Actresponsibly says...

skinthegoat wrote:
How ridiculous to expect the rate payers of Thurrock (of which I am one) to bear the cost of sorting this problem out. I am no fan of TBC but what the hell has it got to do with them? That area of the Mardyke is a flood plain, and if that is interfered with the water will go somewhere else. Anybody up for flooding to protect horses? Anybody?

If certain people (I think we know who we are talking about) are going to do as they likey, then let them foot the bill. They have the sole responsibility for these horses, and no one else.

As an aside, where I live some, shall we say, "itinerants" had a large number of horses grazing nearby. For some reason the horses stampeded through our street, trampling and destroying gardens, and creating absolute mayhem.
skinthegoat - Thurrock Council are responsible for the situation occurring in the first instance. Had they, as landlords, correctly ovrviewed what their tenant was up to (i.e. illegally sub-letting the land), then the problem wouldn't have arisen. Thurrock Council's land, Thurrock Council's incompetence and Thurrock Council could sort this out in the click of a finger by terminating the lease! With them not acting, they are costing the taxpayer MORE. The tenant is there for FREE and he is making money by illegally sub-letting. I.e. taking the pee out of the Thurrock taxpayer. I have lived in Thurrock for most of my life and have paid council taxes. It is not right that Thurrock Council can create these situations and then not act when it all goes wrong. Oh - I might just give up my mortgage, become a council tenant, not pay any rent and sub-let to other people and pocket the money!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]skinthegoat[/bold] wrote: How ridiculous to expect the rate payers of Thurrock (of which I am one) to bear the cost of sorting this problem out. I am no fan of TBC but what the hell has it got to do with them? That area of the Mardyke is a flood plain, and if that is interfered with the water will go somewhere else. Anybody up for flooding to protect horses? Anybody? If certain people (I think we know who we are talking about) are going to do as they likey, then let them foot the bill. They have the sole responsibility for these horses, and no one else. As an aside, where I live some, shall we say, "itinerants" had a large number of horses grazing nearby. For some reason the horses stampeded through our street, trampling and destroying gardens, and creating absolute mayhem.[/p][/quote]skinthegoat - Thurrock Council are responsible for the situation occurring in the first instance. Had they, as landlords, correctly ovrviewed what their tenant was up to (i.e. illegally sub-letting the land), then the problem wouldn't have arisen. Thurrock Council's land, Thurrock Council's incompetence and Thurrock Council could sort this out in the click of a finger by terminating the lease! With them not acting, they are costing the taxpayer MORE. The tenant is there for FREE and he is making money by illegally sub-letting. I.e. taking the pee out of the Thurrock taxpayer. I have lived in Thurrock for most of my life and have paid council taxes. It is not right that Thurrock Council can create these situations and then not act when it all goes wrong. Oh - I might just give up my mortgage, become a council tenant, not pay any rent and sub-let to other people and pocket the money!!!!!! Actresponsibly
  • Score: 2

8:24pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Actresponsibly says...

Marcus P wrote:
skinthegoat wrote:
How ridiculous to expect the rate payers of Thurrock (of which I am one) to bear the cost of sorting this problem out. I am no fan of TBC but what the hell has it got to do with them? That area of the Mardyke is a flood plain, and if that is interfered with the water will go somewhere else. Anybody up for flooding to protect horses? Anybody?

If certain people (I think we know who we are talking about) are going to do as they likey, then let them foot the bill. They have the sole responsibility for these horses, and no one else.

As an aside, where I live some, shall we say, "itinerants" had a large number of horses grazing nearby. For some reason the horses stampeded through our street, trampling and destroying gardens, and creating absolute mayhem.
Are the owners of these poor horses members of a certain ahem....cultural friendship group?

Perhaps these animals have been abandoned on purpose?

I am astounded the RSPCA haven't intervened.
Yes Marcus P. They are
[quote][p][bold]Marcus P[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skinthegoat[/bold] wrote: How ridiculous to expect the rate payers of Thurrock (of which I am one) to bear the cost of sorting this problem out. I am no fan of TBC but what the hell has it got to do with them? That area of the Mardyke is a flood plain, and if that is interfered with the water will go somewhere else. Anybody up for flooding to protect horses? Anybody? If certain people (I think we know who we are talking about) are going to do as they likey, then let them foot the bill. They have the sole responsibility for these horses, and no one else. As an aside, where I live some, shall we say, "itinerants" had a large number of horses grazing nearby. For some reason the horses stampeded through our street, trampling and destroying gardens, and creating absolute mayhem.[/p][/quote]Are the owners of these poor horses members of a certain ahem....cultural friendship group? Perhaps these animals have been abandoned on purpose? I am astounded the RSPCA haven't intervened.[/p][/quote]Yes Marcus P. They are Actresponsibly
  • Score: 2

10:23pm Sun 5 Jan 14

arnt guinness says...

This has been going on for far too long..Years infact.
I am disgusted at Thurrock Council for letting these poor horses suffer, drown and starve to death on thier land...knowingly!!! This situation needs to stop now!!! I have three ponies who want for nothing and are tucked up in thier
nice warm stables tonight.... It saddens me to think that those poor horses are cold wet and Very Hungry EVERYDAY!! Please Thurrock Council Stop turning a blind eye
and stop these poor horses suffering once and for all!!!!!!!
This has been going on for far too long..Years infact. I am disgusted at Thurrock Council for letting these poor horses suffer, drown and starve to death on thier land...knowingly!!! This situation needs to stop now!!! I have three ponies who want for nothing and are tucked up in thier nice warm stables tonight.... It saddens me to think that those poor horses are cold wet and Very Hungry EVERYDAY!! Please Thurrock Council Stop turning a blind eye and stop these poor horses suffering once and for all!!!!!!! arnt guinness
  • Score: 0

10:27pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Actresponsibly says...

Isn't it funny? One of the owners, who incidentally WON'T reveal her name on this page, thinks it's funny that everyone is so upset about the horses on the Mardykes. She is SO convinced that she is a good owner despite those bedraggled horses covered in burrs. If you think you are doing right by your horses, why not reveal yourself?
Isn't it funny? One of the owners, who incidentally WON'T reveal her name on this page, thinks it's funny that everyone is so upset about the horses on the Mardykes. She is SO convinced that she is a good owner despite those bedraggled horses covered in burrs. If you think you are doing right by your horses, why not reveal yourself? Actresponsibly
  • Score: 2

6:07pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Actresponsibly says...

Comments posted on Facebook by the one of the owners of the horses ..... and the heartless comments at the predicament of these poor animals. See as follows:

Vicky Ashdown - Yesterday.
Tiffany Hills they are swimming!!!! lol
Nic Relf Looks so bad lol better get them a snorkel.
Kirsty Tuckey OMFG is that a puddle I see :-0 I am calling the authorities!!! xXx

20 hours ago..











Karen Davis where they gone hun xx

19 hours ago..











Vicky Ashdown these pics are showing across the river which is part of the cobs field that no one can see from the road they only see the area that floods but also dont take into account that they can go up into the woods

6 hours ago · 1
Comments posted on Facebook by the one of the owners of the horses ..... and the heartless comments at the predicament of these poor animals. See as follows: Vicky Ashdown - Yesterday. Tiffany Hills they are swimming!!!! lol Nic Relf Looks so bad lol better get them a snorkel. Kirsty Tuckey OMFG is that a puddle I see :-0 I am calling the authorities!!! xXx 20 hours ago.. Karen Davis where they gone hun xx 19 hours ago.. Vicky Ashdown these pics are showing across the river which is part of the cobs field that no one can see from the road they only see the area that floods but also dont take into account that they can go up into the woods 6 hours ago · 1 Actresponsibly
  • Score: 0

6:27pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Berry33 says...

If that's the attitude towards their horses why have they got them,
If that's the attitude towards their horses why have they got them, Berry33
  • Score: 3

6:39pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Yashmak says...

I'm amazed and saddened that anyone who has seen the horses residing on the Mardyke would think it's a laughing matter.
I've always thought there should be a test for people before they are allowed the priveledge of owning animals.
I have no issue with horses living out - in fact I have 2 youngsters who will again winter out BUT the big difference is they have dry standing and shelter, they have access to adlib hay and they are feed hard feed. They are rugged accordingly - all basic care is covered. I'm also not letting them live on FLOOD PLAIN where there is a high risk of them DROWNING!!!!!

I appreciate this Winter is one of the worst lots of us will be able to remember in relation to rainfall. There are numerous issues, not just with the welfare of the horses, but the subletting, passporting of the animals and the huge grant gratefully received by Thurrock Council to manage the land. Quick enough to whack a bedroom tax and upend numerous families - but not arsed in the slightest about the Welfare of the horses or the management of the land.

I will gratefully accept a fraction of the extortionate wage that Mr Farrant and Mr Rydings are in receipt of, for doing their job - because if I'm honest clearly not at their level. Because I'm not a spineless hypocrite.
I'm amazed and saddened that anyone who has seen the horses residing on the Mardyke would think it's a laughing matter. I've always thought there should be a test for people before they are allowed the priveledge of owning animals. I have no issue with horses living out - in fact I have 2 youngsters who will again winter out BUT the big difference is they have dry standing and shelter, they have access to adlib hay and they are feed hard feed. They are rugged accordingly - all basic care is covered. I'm also not letting them live on FLOOD PLAIN where there is a high risk of them DROWNING!!!!! I appreciate this Winter is one of the worst lots of us will be able to remember in relation to rainfall. There are numerous issues, not just with the welfare of the horses, but the subletting, passporting of the animals and the huge grant gratefully received by Thurrock Council to manage the land. Quick enough to whack a bedroom tax and upend numerous families - but not arsed in the slightest about the Welfare of the horses or the management of the land. I will gratefully accept a fraction of the extortionate wage that Mr Farrant and Mr Rydings are in receipt of, for doing their job - because if I'm honest clearly not at their level. Because I'm not a spineless hypocrite. Yashmak
  • Score: 4

8:08pm Mon 6 Jan 14

hencat says...

If the state of these animals,starving, drowning and even lying dead were shown on national tv, could you imagine the public outcry? I can. How would TBC and the animal's owners wriggle out of it then? It breaks my heart it really does.
If the state of these animals,starving, drowning and even lying dead were shown on national tv, could you imagine the public outcry? I can. How would TBC and the animal's owners wriggle out of it then? It breaks my heart it really does. hencat
  • Score: 4

3:58pm Fri 10 Jan 14

The Hog says...

get a grip people. Horses are there because the owners have dumped them there. TBC didn't dump them there. If TBC just lift the horses,it will be seen as theft. The owners will then appear from under the mud to claim TBC had no rights to touch the horses,the RSPC will only get involved if they know it will cost them nothing or they will get good publicity from it..Will you be ok to pay for all the court cases,which normally cost £1000's. JDP will only get involved if she can slag off her own council (odd)... its a flood plain give it a few years, TBC will sell the land of for housing.
get a grip people. Horses are there because the owners have dumped them there. TBC didn't dump them there. If TBC just lift the horses,it will be seen as theft. The owners will then appear from under the mud to claim TBC had no rights to touch the horses,the RSPC will only get involved if they know it will cost them nothing or they will get good publicity from it..Will you be ok to pay for all the court cases,which normally cost £1000's. JDP will only get involved if she can slag off her own council (odd)... its a flood plain give it a few years, TBC will sell the land of for housing. The Hog
  • Score: 0

2:19pm Sat 11 Jan 14

clou81 says...

Horses all hold current passports........ Fed appropriately.......
.feet trimmed.......wormed
!!!!! I see the grounds for more than a few slander cases on these comments!!!!!
Horses all hold current passports........ Fed appropriately....... .feet trimmed.......wormed !!!!! I see the grounds for more than a few slander cases on these comments!!!!! clou81
  • Score: -1

2:22pm Sat 11 Jan 14

clou81 says...

Also THURROCK GAZETTE it is very unprofessional to use a photo of a clearly emaciated horse that has nothing to do with the mardyke horses....!!!!
Also THURROCK GAZETTE it is very unprofessional to use a photo of a clearly emaciated horse that has nothing to do with the mardyke horses....!!!! clou81
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