Good or bad? Oftsed school table woe for Thurrock

THURROCK’S children are among those least likely to get a decent primary education in the UK according to Ofsted’s annual report.

Figures show that just 49 per cent of the borough’s youngsters are in primary schools considered “good” or better by Ofsted, with the local authority in the bottom three for the number of “good” or “outstanding” schools.

In June, 20 of the 42 primary schools in Thurrock had a satisfactory grading and in the last year, only seven of the 14 schools inspected by Ofsted were found to be “good”.

One, Dilkes was rated as “outstanding”. Five were found to be satisfactory or to require improvement and Purfleet Primary School was deemed “inadequate” in December 2011, but is now making “satisfactory progress”.

Cllr Oliver Gerrish, responsible for education at Thurrock Council called the stats “disappointing” but believes schools are improving, claiming that two years ago, just 33 per cent of the borough’s primary pupils were in good or outstanding schools.

He said: “In our Early Years Foundation Stage, we have reached the national average in three years from being well below. In Key Stage One we now exceed the national average in Reading and Maths and are at the national average in Writing.

“In the new Phonics Test taken in Year One, Thurrock children are performing exactly at the national average and this year the improvement trend at Key Stage two showed Thurrock schools were improving at a faster rate than nationally.”

He added: “We are working together with stronger schools to support the weaker ones, and not ruling out any routes which will lead to improvement.

“These improvements in performance will undoubtedly contribute to better Ofsted judgements over time.”

Jackie Doyle-Price, the Thurrock MP believes the answer to Thurrock’s school woes lies in academies or partnership schemes.

She said: “We have known for some time that a number of Thurrock’s primary schools are underperforming.

“They need an injection of fresh leadership to boost performance, either through the involvement of an academy sponsor or a partner school.

“New Free schools to replace the failing should also be considered. There needs to be a determined effort to drive up standards.”

Cllr James Halden, the Thurrock Tory spokesman on education, said: “Its time Labour woke up, we are in the bottom three councils for primary education in the country.

"I call on Labour to back our plans for school freedom, that they have been blindly opposed to for too long.”

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4:23pm Wed 28 Nov 12

Cvh says...

The Labour led council strikes again

Please just go
The Labour led council strikes again Please just go Cvh

4:44pm Wed 28 Nov 12

coddy says...

Here we go again. Let's knock Thurrock schools. My wife works in a local school and works hard. Its difficult when the parents can't be bothered to read to the kids when they get home. And turning schools into acadamies as the dozy twonk JDP says takes money from those schools that stay under the LEA.
Here we go again. Let's knock Thurrock schools. My wife works in a local school and works hard. Its difficult when the parents can't be bothered to read to the kids when they get home. And turning schools into acadamies as the dozy twonk JDP says takes money from those schools that stay under the LEA. coddy

10:07pm Wed 28 Nov 12

Dave_ says...

Lies, damned lies and statistics.
I think it's high time that rather than coming into schools for a couple of days as judge and jury, if they condemn the school, OFSTED should place their "experts" who have inspected the schools into the school for 12 months to advise and assist on making it better, afterall if they are good enough to criticise they should be even better and making things right. But you know what, I doubt they are any better than the teachers doing the real work day to day and be equally at a loss to know what to do in the face of criticism.
Speaking to neighbours they say that the prmary schools seem to have this week and that week and various other "initiatives" that are distractions from learning. Which seem to be at the behest or supported by the council. I can't remember anything other than road safety bike tests when I was at primary school.
Maybe all of these odd weeks are why the schools get so snotty about parents taking their children out of school.
Lies, damned lies and statistics. I think it's high time that rather than coming into schools for a couple of days as judge and jury, if they condemn the school, OFSTED should place their "experts" who have inspected the schools into the school for 12 months to advise and assist on making it better, afterall if they are good enough to criticise they should be even better and making things right. But you know what, I doubt they are any better than the teachers doing the real work day to day and be equally at a loss to know what to do in the face of criticism. Speaking to neighbours they say that the prmary schools seem to have this week and that week and various other "initiatives" that are distractions from learning. Which seem to be at the behest or supported by the council. I can't remember anything other than road safety bike tests when I was at primary school. Maybe all of these odd weeks are why the schools get so snotty about parents taking their children out of school. Dave_

10:46pm Wed 28 Nov 12

babyblueeyes says...

coddy wrote:
Here we go again. Let's knock Thurrock schools. My wife works in a local school and works hard. Its difficult when the parents can't be bothered to read to the kids when they get home. And turning schools into acadamies as the dozy twonk JDP says takes money from those schools that stay under the LEA.
I feel i had to say something to you comment about parents that cant be bothered to read to their children after school. I had a long conversation today with another parent of a child in the same class as my daughter both from a school that has been told that by the ofsted they need to improve. We spoke about how much homework and reading that is sent home each night to do with our children and what work is actually being done in school time with them I believe they get more school work sent home then they actually do in school as when asked my daughter says all they do is play games and draw . The children have to spend at least 15 mins each night reading and then another 15 mins learning keywords and then at least another half hour to do homework once a week I just dont have the time to do it every night and its not that I cannot be bothered ! i have two other children to look after also one of which I have to do reading and school work with aswell which takes longer because hes older and then a 1 year old to keep entertained at the same time . My husband is dyslexic so its totally left up to me to do i have to fit cooking dinner and bathtime / betime into this routine also .I think if the teachers focused more on one to one with the children instead of having to sort out the badly behaved children all day the children would learn more and be able to read better it shouldnt just be left to the parents to do all the teaching that is what they go to school for .So no its not the fact that the parents cannot be bothered to read to them .
[quote][p][bold]coddy[/bold] wrote: Here we go again. Let's knock Thurrock schools. My wife works in a local school and works hard. Its difficult when the parents can't be bothered to read to the kids when they get home. And turning schools into acadamies as the dozy twonk JDP says takes money from those schools that stay under the LEA.[/p][/quote]I feel i had to say something to you comment about parents that cant be bothered to read to their children after school. I had a long conversation today with another parent of a child in the same class as my daughter both from a school that has been told that by the ofsted they need to improve. We spoke about how much homework and reading that is sent home each night to do with our children and what work is actually being done in school time with them I believe they get more school work sent home then they actually do in school as when asked my daughter says all they do is play games and draw . The children have to spend at least 15 mins each night reading and then another 15 mins learning keywords and then at least another half hour to do homework once a week I just dont have the time to do it every night and its not that I cannot be bothered ! i have two other children to look after also one of which I have to do reading and school work with aswell which takes longer because hes older and then a 1 year old to keep entertained at the same time . My husband is dyslexic so its totally left up to me to do i have to fit cooking dinner and bathtime / betime into this routine also .I think if the teachers focused more on one to one with the children instead of having to sort out the badly behaved children all day the children would learn more and be able to read better it shouldnt just be left to the parents to do all the teaching that is what they go to school for .So no its not the fact that the parents cannot be bothered to read to them . babyblueeyes

12:24am Thu 29 Nov 12

d_2da_ougle says...

baby blue eyes, as a parent you find the time between you as a couple maybe your husband should chip in more my dad came home from work done the dinner and i was read to regularrly it done more good then harm believe me if you cant make time for a kids education and encourage it i think you should seriously think twice about having kids in the first place home educations is determental to a childs devolpments i was reading before i started school
baby blue eyes, as a parent you find the time between you as a couple maybe your husband should chip in more my dad came home from work done the dinner and i was read to regularrly it done more good then harm believe me if you cant make time for a kids education and encourage it i think you should seriously think twice about having kids in the first place home educations is determental to a childs devolpments i was reading before i started school d_2da_ougle

7:21am Thu 29 Nov 12

Dave_ says...

I still think that the 'accusers' (OFSTED) should be held to account and charged with rectifying the problems.
I don't if they do but look deeper into what else the schools do, as per our neighbour, there seems to be a lot of distractions from teaching of the basics. I think there should also be a return to teaching by rote and constantly correcting mistakes, which hasn't been in place for years.
I still think that the 'accusers' (OFSTED) should be held to account and charged with rectifying the problems. I don't if they do but look deeper into what else the schools do, as per our neighbour, there seems to be a lot of distractions from teaching of the basics. I think there should also be a return to teaching by rote and constantly correcting mistakes, which hasn't been in place for years. Dave_

10:24am Thu 29 Nov 12

Rob-C100 says...

@d_2da_ougle - it's just a shame you didn't learn punctuation and spelling - perhaps your post is indicative of the standards that are deemed acceptable nowadays.
@d_2da_ougle - it's just a shame you didn't learn punctuation and spelling - perhaps your post is indicative of the standards that are deemed acceptable nowadays. Rob-C100

12:37pm Thu 29 Nov 12

babyblueeyes says...

d_2da_ougle wrote:
baby blue eyes, as a parent you find the time between you as a couple maybe your husband should chip in more my dad came home from work done the dinner and i was read to regularrly it done more good then harm believe me if you cant make time for a kids education and encourage it i think you should seriously think twice about having kids in the first place home educations is determental to a childs devolpments i was reading before i started school
how dare you say i should think twice about having children you nasty person !!! this is of course from someone who most probably doesnt have young children and is still living in the dark ages and believes all young familys are all out of work benefit scumbags that are too lazy to anything with their children . I am not one of these scummy mummys that sits at home all day watching jeremy kyle and smoking benefit money .My children come first with absolutly everything i make sure all homework and reading is done i was just suggesting that the schools should spend more time teaching children in school then making them do all their schoolwork at home which is what is happening and this is part of the reason why the school has had a bad ofsted as they are not teaching the children what they should be learning. also my husband goes out to work at 4.30 in the morning and works bloody hard all day sometimes not getting home till 6 which is a really long day so when he comes home the last thing he wants to do is read .You really have to stop looking down your nose at people and judging them just because they dare to critisise you .
[quote][p][bold]d_2da_ougle[/bold] wrote: baby blue eyes, as a parent you find the time between you as a couple maybe your husband should chip in more my dad came home from work done the dinner and i was read to regularrly it done more good then harm believe me if you cant make time for a kids education and encourage it i think you should seriously think twice about having kids in the first place home educations is determental to a childs devolpments i was reading before i started school[/p][/quote]how dare you say i should think twice about having children you nasty person !!! this is of course from someone who most probably doesnt have young children and is still living in the dark ages and believes all young familys are all out of work benefit scumbags that are too lazy to anything with their children . I am not one of these scummy mummys that sits at home all day watching jeremy kyle and smoking benefit money .My children come first with absolutly everything i make sure all homework and reading is done i was just suggesting that the schools should spend more time teaching children in school then making them do all their schoolwork at home which is what is happening and this is part of the reason why the school has had a bad ofsted as they are not teaching the children what they should be learning. also my husband goes out to work at 4.30 in the morning and works bloody hard all day sometimes not getting home till 6 which is a really long day so when he comes home the last thing he wants to do is read .You really have to stop looking down your nose at people and judging them just because they dare to critisise you . babyblueeyes

3:37pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Thurrockbob says...

babyblueeyes wrote:
d_2da_ougle wrote:
baby blue eyes, as a parent you find the time between you as a couple maybe your husband should chip in more my dad came home from work done the dinner and i was read to regularrly it done more good then harm believe me if you cant make time for a kids education and encourage it i think you should seriously think twice about having kids in the first place home educations is determental to a childs devolpments i was reading before i started school
how dare you say i should think twice about having children you nasty person !!! this is of course from someone who most probably doesnt have young children and is still living in the dark ages and believes all young familys are all out of work benefit scumbags that are too lazy to anything with their children . I am not one of these scummy mummys that sits at home all day watching jeremy kyle and smoking benefit money .My children come first with absolutly everything i make sure all homework and reading is done i was just suggesting that the schools should spend more time teaching children in school then making them do all their schoolwork at home which is what is happening and this is part of the reason why the school has had a bad ofsted as they are not teaching the children what they should be learning. also my husband goes out to work at 4.30 in the morning and works bloody hard all day sometimes not getting home till 6 which is a really long day so when he comes home the last thing he wants to do is read .You really have to stop looking down your nose at people and judging them just because they dare to critisise you .
Well said!
[quote][p][bold]babyblueeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]d_2da_ougle[/bold] wrote: baby blue eyes, as a parent you find the time between you as a couple maybe your husband should chip in more my dad came home from work done the dinner and i was read to regularrly it done more good then harm believe me if you cant make time for a kids education and encourage it i think you should seriously think twice about having kids in the first place home educations is determental to a childs devolpments i was reading before i started school[/p][/quote]how dare you say i should think twice about having children you nasty person !!! this is of course from someone who most probably doesnt have young children and is still living in the dark ages and believes all young familys are all out of work benefit scumbags that are too lazy to anything with their children . I am not one of these scummy mummys that sits at home all day watching jeremy kyle and smoking benefit money .My children come first with absolutly everything i make sure all homework and reading is done i was just suggesting that the schools should spend more time teaching children in school then making them do all their schoolwork at home which is what is happening and this is part of the reason why the school has had a bad ofsted as they are not teaching the children what they should be learning. also my husband goes out to work at 4.30 in the morning and works bloody hard all day sometimes not getting home till 6 which is a really long day so when he comes home the last thing he wants to do is read .You really have to stop looking down your nose at people and judging them just because they dare to critisise you .[/p][/quote]Well said! Thurrockbob

5:10pm Thu 29 Nov 12

meherenowinuk says...

just look at d_2da_ougle's comment on the Kiely story .. Say's it all really.... and very well said i say Babyblueeyes :)
just look at d_2da_ougle's comment on the Kiely story .. Say's it all really.... and very well said i say Babyblueeyes :) meherenowinuk

8:55pm Thu 29 Nov 12

singingmum says...

babyblueeyes wrote:
coddy wrote:
Here we go again. Let's knock Thurrock schools. My wife works in a local school and works hard. Its difficult when the parents can't be bothered to read to the kids when they get home. And turning schools into acadamies as the dozy twonk JDP says takes money from those schools that stay under the LEA.
I feel i had to say something to you comment about parents that cant be bothered to read to their children after school. I had a long conversation today with another parent of a child in the same class as my daughter both from a school that has been told that by the ofsted they need to improve. We spoke about how much homework and reading that is sent home each night to do with our children and what work is actually being done in school time with them I believe they get more school work sent home then they actually do in school as when asked my daughter says all they do is play games and draw . The children have to spend at least 15 mins each night reading and then another 15 mins learning keywords and then at least another half hour to do homework once a week I just dont have the time to do it every night and its not that I cannot be bothered ! i have two other children to look after also one of which I have to do reading and school work with aswell which takes longer because hes older and then a 1 year old to keep entertained at the same time . My husband is dyslexic so its totally left up to me to do i have to fit cooking dinner and bathtime / betime into this routine also .I think if the teachers focused more on one to one with the children instead of having to sort out the badly behaved children all day the children would learn more and be able to read better it shouldnt just be left to the parents to do all the teaching that is what they go to school for .So no its not the fact that the parents cannot be bothered to read to them .
I actually don't think that 15 minutes of reading, 15 minutes of key words and a further half an hour a week of homework to be that much at all. I can't comment on how much the children are actually doing in school, but reading every night will definitely pay dividends in the end. I am not a huge proponent of copious amounts of homework, but reading and key words, for sure need reviewing at home.
[quote][p][bold]babyblueeyes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]coddy[/bold] wrote: Here we go again. Let's knock Thurrock schools. My wife works in a local school and works hard. Its difficult when the parents can't be bothered to read to the kids when they get home. And turning schools into acadamies as the dozy twonk JDP says takes money from those schools that stay under the LEA.[/p][/quote]I feel i had to say something to you comment about parents that cant be bothered to read to their children after school. I had a long conversation today with another parent of a child in the same class as my daughter both from a school that has been told that by the ofsted they need to improve. We spoke about how much homework and reading that is sent home each night to do with our children and what work is actually being done in school time with them I believe they get more school work sent home then they actually do in school as when asked my daughter says all they do is play games and draw . The children have to spend at least 15 mins each night reading and then another 15 mins learning keywords and then at least another half hour to do homework once a week I just dont have the time to do it every night and its not that I cannot be bothered ! i have two other children to look after also one of which I have to do reading and school work with aswell which takes longer because hes older and then a 1 year old to keep entertained at the same time . My husband is dyslexic so its totally left up to me to do i have to fit cooking dinner and bathtime / betime into this routine also .I think if the teachers focused more on one to one with the children instead of having to sort out the badly behaved children all day the children would learn more and be able to read better it shouldnt just be left to the parents to do all the teaching that is what they go to school for .So no its not the fact that the parents cannot be bothered to read to them .[/p][/quote]I actually don't think that 15 minutes of reading, 15 minutes of key words and a further half an hour a week of homework to be that much at all. I can't comment on how much the children are actually doing in school, but reading every night will definitely pay dividends in the end. I am not a huge proponent of copious amounts of homework, but reading and key words, for sure need reviewing at home. singingmum

11:30pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Marcus P says...

I find this strange as many of the secondary schools in Thurrock get well above average results in terms of 5 A*-C GCSE including English and Maths.

To be honest there is no way I would like to be a teacher in Thurrock. Too many families have a rough chav background. They have dysfunctional core norms and values that are not conducive to success in education . A walk around Grays town centre will confirm this.

I see JDP like a good nodding dog Tory back bencher -peddles the pseudo privatisation of state education via free schools and academies. There is very little real evidence this leads to long term improvement. A Southern Cross type disaster will no doubt occur in the future as the asset strippers take over education.
I find this strange as many of the secondary schools in Thurrock get well above average results in terms of 5 A*-C GCSE including English and Maths. To be honest there is no way I would like to be a teacher in Thurrock. Too many families have a rough chav background. They have dysfunctional core norms and values that are not conducive to success in education . A walk around Grays town centre will confirm this. I see JDP like a good nodding dog Tory back bencher -peddles the pseudo privatisation of state education via free schools and academies. There is very little real evidence this leads to long term improvement. A Southern Cross type disaster will no doubt occur in the future as the asset strippers take over education. Marcus P

1:08pm Fri 30 Nov 12

babyblueeyes says...

meherenowinuk wrote:
just look at d_2da_ougle's comment on the Kiely story .. Say's it all really.... and very well said i say Babyblueeyes :)
Thank you :)
[quote][p][bold]meherenowinuk[/bold] wrote: just look at d_2da_ougle's comment on the Kiely story .. Say's it all really.... and very well said i say Babyblueeyes :)[/p][/quote]Thank you :) babyblueeyes

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